US Troops in Jordan Prepare for War with Syria, Syria Prepares Chemical Weapons

i pray war is not the answer, and i believe nations "prepare" for war just to flex their muscles.. we will see.

cant we just hire a couple syrians to assassinate Assad? would that quell the tension or exacerbate the situation even more?

 

I dont think any of us are Skip but the fucka corrupt govt seems to want this

 

Like a lot of nations in that part of the world, Syria is a contruct, created by Western colonial powers over a somewhat arbitrary amalgam of disparate tribes, religions and ethnicities.

A brutal dictator is like a circus ringmaster keeping all these "lions" from tearing open one another's throats.

If these peoples have never learned to live peacefully with one another, then removing Assad may unleash the same chaos we are seeing in Iraq.

That doesn't excuse Assad's brutality, but I don't see any indication that they will behave any differently than Iraq when relieved of their dictator.

 

Did you really just suggest that?

Sort of like how we repeatedly propped up violent despots all over south america and the middle east, and then assassinated them and put in a new despot when we decided we didn't like something they did, for the last hundred years? Yeah? Good plan? Keep doing it?

I mean, doing that is obviously NOT why the world is unstable and these guys are a problem NOW

 

I deplore the unAmerican regime change and outright political assasinations of the past.

So do we get involved at all?
I suppose that we should not object in principle to helping other countries, but what is the outcome of good intentions? I guess it is different from one country to the next.

If we help "reformers" in one country, they are empowered to choose their own leaders and end despotic regimes. It ends happily.

Help "reformers" in other places and the country merely exchanges one tyrant for another.

Putting aside the regime change intended to make economic colonies of small countries, is there a legitmate role for lending a hand to true reformers, such as Kennedy envisioned with the Peace Corps?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XorKTwkFPDU&feature=share"]Libya & Gaddafi - The Truth you are not supposed to know - YouTube

This vid is about Libya but I think the theme is the same for most middle eastern states. War is about money and in this case more specifically, oil.

 

it wasnt a real suggestion...

my suggestion to the United States: stop getting involved, stop policing 'because u can', because we cant, we are in so much debt i forgot how much.

i just hate the middle east..

 

smokin,
You've got a point. I don't want to see one hungry person in America, the breadbasket of the world.

However, I am fine with it if people want to go to Haiti and help them reforest their eroded hillsides, go to Africa and drill wells for people with dirty water, or help the Jordanians reclaim desert back into gardens.

So we have lots of volunteers doing this with their own time and money. But should the United States government provide humanitarian aid?
In general, yes. It makes more sense to give them the tools to feed themselves rather than make them stand in a bread line the rest of their lives, but if you don't feed the starving now, they will never be able to plant crops and grind the grain into bread.

I think we need to tell our rich citizens that the tax holiday is over. That America will feed her own hungry and create an opportunity society so we can have the dignity of work and personal progress.

I hesitate to say that it was always wrong for us to get involved. Maybe we did some good in post-war Europe and Japan.
But trying to interject ourselves in the Middle East's endless wars seems futile.

There are millions of secular Arabs, animists, Christians, B'hai, and Zoroastrians being persecuted in Africa and Asia.
If we can help them escape slaughter, I would consider it money well spent.

I am hoping that South Sudan can be one such refuge.

 

yea i agree, humanitarian aid from volunteers and govt should remain intact. i was mainly talking about military intervention..

 

So this would be a better country if only the government had firearms?

 

no, only military personal. like the UK, im pretty sure their cops only carry batons, they prob have access to firearms, but only use them in extreme cases.

the only way to combat a hostile citizen with a firearm is to use a firearm, hence the reason our police have access to automatic rifles which is insane.

 

The truth about the situation in Libya, Syria: US proxy wars

http://my.opera.com/Philopro/blog/2012/01/26/the-truth-about-the-situation-in-libya-2

 

Syria: fabricating a pretext for war

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24591

 

btw

I would like to see where that info came from.

However to be precise we should mention each time we write about Israel and the USA here that they DO have chemical and nuclear weapons of mass destruction ready for use and they used them already. Thats a real threat.

 

yeah i've found it tough with all these "liberation" protests that the protests have been anything but "peaceful protesters".. they are in areas of the country where many of man are armed because that's the way life is... be able to defend your ow ground or have someone trample over you.. and now you are going to try to tell me that none of these protests are firing back while they are getting shot at.. or even starting the shooting themselves..

peaceful protesting to change radical goverments is bullshit.. you really think Egypt.. Lybia.. or Syria would/will actually have changed if people just stood outside and sang, played their guitars and banged on their drum while others carried signs...(i mean.. it works so well for the Occupy protesters.. all banks are now gone and and college is free.. and no more student loans and marijuana is legal!.. oh wait...)

 

you mean this kind of weapons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px--x_cGM-w&feature=mfu_channel&list=UL"]‫المجموعات الارهابية تواصل جرائمها 3 2 2012‬‎ - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTV9_Rr1Ijs"]‫الجهات المختصة تتصدى للارهاب 2 2 2012‬‎ - YouTube

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP2ijLjMSWs"]Homs New quantities of weapons drugs seized - YouTube

 

I wonder if "protestors" in the USA would attack police/army with those weapons, what would they shoot back at the protestors? Tear gas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgznlLHb-44"]Syrian Rebels Captured With Israeli Weapons - YouTube
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM4igPuT494"]Israeli Weapons And Stolen Military Uniforms Seized In Homs, Syria .wmv - YouTube

 

Here a very nice collection of articles on the present situation in Syria, most of them in english
(from my favourite german economy forum)
http://www.dasgelbeforum.de.org/forum_entry.php?id=247274

 

Syria is not run by Santa Claus. Ask any of the Lebanese people who live here now, having fled for their lives during the occupation.

But that doesn't mean that its overthrow by outside forces would usher in The Peaceable Kingdom.

My thought: why help either one of these bloody factions?
We can drop loaves of bread from the air instead of bombs and do more good.

 

From the horses mouth: these wars are not humanitarian but for oil...wow... lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ09U_a80MM&feature=email"]John Bolton Admits All Of These Wars Are For Oil - YouTube