You thought vegan was awkward...

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by Dragonvine, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. Dragonvine

    Dragonvine I do Glass

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    I am intolerant to:
    Eggs
    Milk
    Yeast
    and Carbs also give me a small reaction.

    Have been vegan for 3 years. But am now eating small amounts of meat to fill the gaps in an empty diet/opinions have changed...but this thread still lives in the veggie section because I want to have more than just meat and salad! And I still haven't gotten used to the idea of eating meat, so if it can be avoided, that is preferable!

    Has anyone got any ideas for meals? I'm pretty sure most of the food groups have been ruled out for me, and I'm only left with veg. So.. salad and soup. Luckily I like salad and soup. But can easily get boring.

    Any ideas my HF friends?
     
  2. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Why are you eating meat? Vegans just need some B-12 supplements to get a complete nutrition.
     
  3. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    Ehh....carbs aren't what's giving you a reaction--everyone needs carbs to live, even more than protein. It's more likely you're intolerant to gluten or soy. And how do you know you're intolerant to yeast? If you can't handle bread, it's much more likely it's the gluten. Try brown rice, quinoa, corn/cornbread, etc.

    Also, I would consider that there might be something more going on than just food allergies. No one is allergic to all carbs. Most of what you eat gets turned into glucose anyway (which is a carb) because it's the only fuel source your brain can use. What are your symptoms that make you think you have an intolerance?
     
  4. Dragonvine

    Dragonvine I do Glass

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    ... Heard of lactose intolerance? It's the same thing for carbs. I didn't say I was allergic, I said I was intolerant. Very big difference.

    I know I'm intolerant to these things because I listen to my body.


    I asked for recipe and meal ideas, not a patronising lecture on what I, and science, and my doctor, deem to be going on with my health. K? ^^
     
  5. Dragonvine

    Dragonvine I do Glass

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    Nothing to do with nutrition. If I do choose to eat meat one meal, it's because I want to. Nothing to do with anything ^^
     
  6. wisp

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    Can you not eat meat substitutes , soya mince etc instead of meat ?.You say you are eating meat to fill in the gaps -would vitamins not do that?What about legumes?
     
  7. Dragonvine

    Dragonvine I do Glass

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    Wisp, I've had all those, most subs have egg or milk in. Plus, the fact that it fits in is just a happy coincidence, rather than a solid reason.

    Again, this thread isn't about me eating meat, it's asking for meal ideas.

    Ok, let's say I'm asking for vegan, yeast, and carb free meals. Better? :D
     
  8. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    WTF? Defensive much? Yes, I've heard of lactose intolerance--it's only one form of carb. Like I said, you cannot be intolerant to ALL carbs. I guarantee you that you have carbohydrates in your blood as we speak--glucose is a CARB whether or not you care to believe it. I'm sorry if this somehow offends you (like I was trying to be offensive...) And I DID give meal ideas--brown rice, potatoes, quinoa. I said nothing about doctors. And just because I mention scientific facts it's somehow mutually exclusive with listening to your body? So sorry I did not adhere strictly to the rules of the OP. Do forgive me.
     
  9. wisp

    wisp Member

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    Cool , i understand :D .. i get most of my recipes on vegweb and vegetarians in paradise, have you tried there .
    BTW Also their is a sub made by Frys , i dont know if you get it state side but it contains no milk or egg and is totally vegan .Hope this helps
     
  10. dilligaf

    dilligaf Banned

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    haha.. intolerant to carbs??? sorry but op yer a bloomin idiot!.. yer salad and meat have carbs in them as does virtually everything! Strawberry was absolutely correct in what she wrote.. obviously you do not really want advice, you simply want to hear what you want to hear..
     
  11. Dragonvine

    Dragonvine I do Glass

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    Sorry guiz, and strawb, didn't want to be difficult. Still trying to figure out what is going on with me so meh.

    I figured carbs cus whenever I have chips or pasta, I get ill. I figured it wasn't gluten or wheat because it happens with chips too. I thought it might be large amounts of carbs, because I can have wraps and stuff and I'm fine, just with solid pasta or chips or something. Jacket potato is ok :S I dunnno.

    Apologies for sounding like an ignorant fool, because I am one sometimes xD

    I did the York Test intolerance test and it came back with eggs milk and yeast (and lentils and beef and turkey but I don't eat these things). I'm looking at other, more general things, that could be the problem. I was watching Channel 4's food hospital and they had a thingy on there about an australian thing that excludes all "fermentable" items, such as wheat, yeast, lentils, dairy, stuff like that... so the york test could have picked up on that maybe. I'll do a bit more research :D
     
  12. SunnyHappyVegan

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    If you eat fruit, you're not intolerant to carbs. Humans run on carbs, it's like being intolerant to water!
    What about maple syrup, honey, molasses, agave? Those are all carbs.

    I can think of a gazillian meals for you...
    For dinner today, I had some broccoli and peppers sauteed with tomato sauce and kale. I added some brown rice, but you can easily omit this, although rice is g-free.

    For lunch I had carrots with a tofu spread (so it has soy, that may be a problem for you)
    1/2 lb tofu
    2 T tahini (eat tahini!)
    1 carrot
    ginger (to taste)
    lemon
    salt
    Just blend everything. It's a very tasty spread.

    Salads are great. Veggies and fruit....

    You should look into some raw recipes, too, if gluten gives you a problem. Tons of g-free recipes in the raw food world.
     
  13. Bear88

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    I'm no expert on the intolerances you have or anything like that. So when you say carbs, do you also have issues with legumes, like beans (especially soy)? Because there are a lot of nutritious vegan items made from that, like Soy Milk, which provides more calcium than dairy milk. Sounds to me like you should look into a vegan gluten-free diet, from what you listed as intolerance. I would discuss the carb thing with your doctor in more detail, or even better a dietician, because it is not a normal intolerance, and it could be something completely different too, an allergy or something you don't know about. It could also be something that could be remedied with medication (and probably herbs if you prefer a more natural approach). Sorry I can't provide any more help.
     
  14. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    Chips are not 'carbs'. The average potato chip is 50-60% fat, 30-40% carbs. Chips are 'fats'.
    Jacket, or baked potato is definitely a good source of carbs, especially for you because I assume you don't smother them in butter.

    What are you putting on your pasta?
     
  15. Random_Zephyr

    Random_Zephyr Lifer

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    I feel your pain. I'm a lactose-intolerant gluten-free vegan with crohn's disease, which means I have to watch my soy intake, can't have nuts in solid forms, or seeds, or raw veggies (i cant digest them unless they're cooked...so no salads). If I can find meals, so can you!!

    It's probably the oil/fat in the chips that is causing you trouble. I bet it's gluten giving you the issues with carbs. Try rice and quinoa for grains. There is a wonderful vegan gluten-free rice bread "food for live - brown rice bread".
    As for meat, why not keep it simple with tofu and tempeh? Those are the only soy products I use because of my tummy.
    Cream of rice for breakfast with brown sugar and almond milk is great.
    Snack on rice cakes instead of chips.
    Daiya makes a vegan cheese that is shredded and gluten-free!
    Enjoy Life brand has a chocolate with only brown sugar, cocoa mass, and coco butter if you're craving something sweet. It's great on a frozen mashed banana (think banana ice cream)!
    Tofu burgers are good for lunch, as well as rice-bread wraps!
    Experiment with stir fries for supper. You don't need to add a grain if you don't want to. Quinoa is great for protein though!
    Make sure you take vitamins to help you out with all of your nutrients where your diet is so restricted. Omega oils, b12 (nutritional yeast is great for b12 and makes your crumbled tofu taste like scrambled eggs), and vitamin A (maybe try spirulina in an almond milk smoothie)!

    Good luck! If you have questions, I love to help!
     
  16. Random_Zephyr

    Random_Zephyr Lifer

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    Also, Ener-G Egg Replacer is the best! You can make Omelets, meringue, quiche, etc.
     
  17. Random_Zephyr

    Random_Zephyr Lifer

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    Just ha a thought re: tempeh... Its fermented soy beans, so maybe it's a bad idea if you have issues with fermentable foods
     
  18. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Willy, by chips, the op means fries. Potato chips in the US sense are crisps.

    What I'm seeing in the list is a sensitivity to refined carbs. So try whole grains and keep the peels on potatoes.

    I worked with a woman through a rough patch in her health and she could eat sweet potatoes or yams with little ill effect but white potatoes, no way. Her medical team only came up with "fiber helps," which is true, but wow, what great training in nutrition for a team working with a woman who could barely eat.

    Ask your doc to reccomend an elimination diet, such as the one Dr Elson Haas promotes.
     
  19. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    I see, still fries are bout 50-50 carbs and fat, with a little protein in there, definitely not helpful for any ones digestion.
     
  20. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    True, but comfort is nice sometimes.
    I'll eat frites/fries/chips because I can't fry worth a damn at home.
    Again, peels are lovely!
     

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