reincarnation in an animal?

Discussion in 'Buddhism' started by pattymary, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. pattymary

    pattymary Member

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    what are the causes that make a human reincarnate into an animal in his next life?
     
  2. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    one reason may be that the person ate an animal but had the choice not to.
     
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    I found this , hope it helps answer your question
    peace be with you
     
  4. KeithBC

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    The above response does not reflect Buddhist thought.

    In Buddhism, there is no master list of which actions produce which results. We are told not to try to work out those details because it will drive us crazy. However, in general, such a rebirth would be caused by bad karma - doing something harmful in this life.
     
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    I want to come back as a Tree..... Far, far away from the nearest chainsaw.
     
  6. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    i want to come back as a womans bicycle seat or a leotard :2thumbsup:
     
  7. ASOSASK

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    I really see Karma as a sort of buzz word for God.

    While Buddha never claimed to be a god, over the centuries, some groups have tacked on gods, arhats, bodhissatvas etc and negated the claim by some that Buddhism is atheistic. :sultan:
     
  8. KeithBC

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    In New Age philosophy, perhaps. But not in Buddhism.

    Karma is much, much more personal than any mere god. Karma is what you yourself do. It doesn't come from outside; you do it to yourself.

    Karma is about taking responsibility for your own actions. Which is why Buddhists frown upon whining about the results of your karma.
     
  9. LoneDeranger

    LoneDeranger Trying to pay attention.

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    As I am not a Buddhist, I cannot speak to this topic from their perspective.

    But I would not consider rebirth as an animal as any sort of punishment for a karmic misfire. I suspect I'd consider it a reward.
     
  10. pattymary

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    from a buddhist prespective it is not good since animal are driven by their pulsions and their instincts and man has a possibility not to, so man precious human life is higher, because we have a possibility to better ourselves more.. that s why buddhists tell you not to waste your precious human life!
     
  11. ripple

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    Where did the Buddha talk tabout re-incarnation? What makes you think it is true? I'm curious as to what in/of me would be reborn?

    :)
     
  12. pattymary

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    in the tibetan book of the dead, you can find more info about these things, but buy it with a good commentary. there is also one book written by sogyal rimpoche: the big book of life and death, very interesting.. in fact reincarnation is one principle of tibetan buddhism, linked to the concept of karma, karma is the reaction to all your actions through many lifes, in the next life you will be under the influence of your actions in this one and in the previous ones, to simplify it if you steal something from me in this life, in one next life i will steal something from you..reincarnation and karma could be an explanation for the injustices of the world, and be the reason why some are born poor and other rich..buddhism gives some keys to come out this vicious circle of action and reaction that cause suffering in the material world..by the way i have been once in aberdeen, it is a big harbour in scotland, isn it ?
     
  13. PsychonautMIA

    PsychonautMIA Chimps gonna chimp

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    In tibetan buddhism it all depends on the last thought you conceive before you die. The last thought which you have reflects your future life as you go through the 49 days/the eight bardos.

    I may be wrong so someone please correct me if i am.
     
  14. ripple

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    Yes it is...it's a very cold harbour at the moment! :)




    This sounds more like my understanding or Hindu or Jain ideas of karma, than of buddhist ones. They seem to be conflated into a single version. As I understand it, buddhist karma is not some sort of divine justice or fate that awaits the good or the wicked. It also seems to be used to justify the caste system in India...and I suspect that is actually how it arrived at its current Hindu form.

    If the historical buddha did live and teach in India some 2500 or so years ago, then he must have been surrounded by brahmins and jains, yet he was considered distinct enough to gain his own following. This is partly what makes me think that the underlying principled behind his teachings must have been quite radical and different, for the time.

    Also, the later suttras and discourses appear quite different than the early ones. They appear to have been written from the perspective of the culture they came out of. In this way, they seem to almost be re-hinduised (my word) after the buddhas death to fit that culture.

    Does this make any sense? :)

    I'm not trying to upset anyone here, or start any form of sectarianism. I just have some honest questions. It seems almost like there are vastly different forms of buddhism, some more compatible with 'western' thought than others, and with principles that can't be blended into some sort of consensus.
     
  15. OneLifeForm

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    :rolleyes: ..

    Everyone always has the choice to not eat the animal.
     
  16. OneLifeForm

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    I ride a woman's bike. It was my grandmothers, then given to my mother.. I have commandeered it now.

    I think it was idiotic to make a "man's" bicycle with that nut busting bar. I'd rather not ever ride another one of those in my life.

    The bike I am riding sails smoothly.

    The seat is all torn up from many man sweaty miles pedaled.

    So you want to be a woman's bike seat for what reason now? ;)
     
  17. ripple

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    As if on Cue (for those that are interested);

    http://www.buddhistgeeks.com/2011/12/bg-239-consensus-buddhism-and-mindful-mayonnaise/
     
  18. pattymary

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    psychonaut,the last thought is important but not enough to decide totally about your next life.. i think your karma determines about that too and your attitude in the bardos also.. the perfect book to understand more is the tibetan book of the dead, with a good commentary..
     
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    We dont cross species. Animals reincarnate in their own "soul groups". They don't "move on up" and we dont reincarnate into "animal forms" due to bad karma.

    They (animals) are here to help with our karma here on earth if the next question was "then why have animals"
     
  20. pattymary

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    who is we? because i have been reading some budhist teachings where it is said you can reincarnate in other life forms than humans..there are several groups of beings where we can reincarnate
     

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