First drug after a year and a half.

So I have not touched any drugs in over a year and a half, excluding marijuana. After my last lsd experience that blew me out of the water I was scared away for a while. Basically my heart had been racing a million miles an hour and my left arm was in extreme pain and felt really tight. I was so convinced I was having a heart attack and it scared the shit out of me. I vowed to myself to stay away from drugs once I came through this experience. But now much time has passed and I have that itch once more. I'm wondering any recommendations where to start off again. I am moderately experienced in Lsd, Mdma, Dxm, Salvia, 2cb, Vicoden, Amanitas and a few others, but I want to start off somewhere really mild and not overwhelming at all. I am juggling between Kratom and LSA. Any opinions on which I should try? Also do either of these have significant effect on bp and heart rate? This is what scared me away the first time so I'm hoping to avoid any substance with these effects. Also if anyone has any other recommendations on a substance to try please let me know. Thanks in advance.

 

kratom is ehh...never done LSA

kratom is worth an interest, i guess - but you can't get a real good high off it. i ended up eating like a half oz of it one night, puked and then the next morning had the worst hangover ever (like hangover from being really drunk)

 

These sound like the vasoconstrictive effects of DOx which is sometimes sold by dickheads on blotter as "acid". LSD should never cause your body physical pain like that, its very very gentle.

 

LSA is worse than LSD, you'll feel like crap at the beginning stages, and since it's a little more untested than LSD, you're never really sure if you safe. I'm looking into Peyote - Mescaline. If you aim to use it as a spiritual tool, it is sounding pretty safe and along the lines of what you're asking for. I still need to look more into it myself before I make a judgment. However, mescaline is sooo hard to find, unless you live in or near Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, or Mexico. Even then, that doesn't mean you'll get it easy.

I think with a little more education of LSD you could have a better experience with it - I sure as hell know I would be terrified to have tried it with little knowledge, but with the knowledge I do have, I feel very safe with it. If that's even an option, find a good documentary and reconsider it.

 

I would suggest LSD to be honest. Of all the drugs you have experience with that's the safest, and at a low dose it should be fairly mild and easy to manage.

 

Yes i was going to go into how it may have been a dox in all actuality but I figured it was too much detail to go into. And yes I was thinking of mescaline but I came to the conclusion that I'm not sure what I would be seeking in the trip so I could not justify doing it.

 

Why is it important to know what you are seeking in a trip when it's mescaline but not when it's LSA?

 

LSA, LSD, and Shrooms take you into an outside world. It is known for it OEV, and trippy factors. Though sensations of "within you without you" (George Harrison!) it deals more of the world around you as it opens up sensory information.

Peyote/Mescaline is actually suppose to be quite poor with its OEV aside from color. The point is things don't get "trippy" but with CEV. Though very amazing on LSD, it is even more incredible and vivid on peyote. This is almost literally soul searching as you fall within yourself very literally. And on that note I think a spiritual journey is required for the full effects, and that is why it is more important. I do wish to try it myself before I finalize this claim. But based off of my readings, this is why.

 

There's a problem if you're trying to decide between opiates and lysergemides. And if you list vicodin as your drug experience, as though it prepares you for psychedelics.

Stop just taking shit and think about what you're taking and why. If you just want to get high, well throw your life away on opiates...... whatevers.

LSA is NOT gentle at all. LSD is.

You asked, and I'll answer: I suggest LSD.

Also writer, keep in mind that set is everything..... if you're scared your heart pounds (I know i've been in a few situations that made mine, on LSD..... and plenty sober, too) and if you're the paranoid ignorant type who would compare kratom to LSA, then you just might work yourself into a panic attack. Outright chest pain/heart attack symptoms would not hit without warning and whatnot on DOx, they're vasoconstrictive but not like THAT.

 

Visuals=irrelevant.

I mean, I like them. But it doesn't make the psychedelic inherently take you inside yourself any more than another does, because one doesn't have visuals.

If you take something like a recreational drug, it works like it, and you judge it based on it's performance as such. If you take a powerful sacrament like LSD like it's not a recreational drug, you don't act like a recreational drug user.

 

^That's soo true. I found a HUGE difference between a recreational LSD trip to a spiritual LSD trip - solo learning focused trip that is.

My point however, is LSD is like a crazy, funny, emotional, schizophrenic daydream. Though valuable, Mescaline seems to have a different effect. I think what's so special about CEV is that those images are from your mind, there's no other way about it, and since Peyote makes those images so clear, you can look inside yourself with more detail. Live a story within your mind, I'm interested due to my high interests in the dream world. If you can live within this subconscious mind, perhaps you can live within one of those dreamscapes in a future dream, or perhaps on the trip.

Though both valuable experiences, I think Peyote may show more depth to your own being, as opposed to more depth in the world.

 

While I was aware Kratom was an opiate, it seemed to me to be more than that. Some reports on erowid describe it having a psychedelic mindset, this is what had intrigued me. And also during my period of drug use, for the most part it was not just to get high. While I will admit sometimes were mere self indulgence, such as the vicodin and mdma, most times it was not. I would always meditate during any psychedelic taken. Actually the last time I took LSD I meditated for about 5 hours of the trip give or take. I always did it with more intentions than to get high. And also as Kratom is an opiate that is why I listed vicodin with my experience, I figured it would be useful to list.

 

I'd go with San Pedro which contains mescaline as your reintro to psychedelics/entheogens/drugs. It can be obtained through online vendors.

Prepare and make a brew with a couple feet of San Pedro and after all that work and preparation maybe you can see how much this stuff means to you. San Pedro has pretty much the best of all worlds but presented in such a smooth non threatening manner, it feels like low dose MDMA, visuals on par with a moderate dose of 2cb, and a natural feeling like mushrooms.