I was watching the documentary of Stephen Hawkings's Into the Universe. I highly suggest it to anyone who has not seen it. Anyways, the reason I made this thread is it brought up many ideas that sparked connections in my head to LSD experiences. Here is one specifically I found mind-blowing. I'm sure everyone is familiar with the doppler effect - A car passes by, as it approaches you the pitch is higher as sound waves are more condensed, as it it leaves it is lower pitch as the waves expand more. The doc mentioned how if we were more sensitive to light, the car would be a little more blue as it approached, and red as it went away. Now here is why this is interesting, I as many other people have mentioned while seeing a car on acid, it appeared like a cop car before. I've seen this effect on lsd, and I couldn't believe this theory in this documentary. It isn't crazy, it actually may exist. It is pretty obvious that under the influence of LSD you are more sensitive to light- but this phenomenon that many people may be able to relate to isn't some type of hallucination, we may honestly be seeing this effect that Stephen Hawking is mentioning. Here was another crazy theory. Eistein in his days theorized that matter pulls in time. In other words, is capable of distorting the passing of time. If a spaceship were to be able to set orbit around a black hole for 5 years of there time, they would come out 10 years in the earths time. A travel through time itself! But this is even seen in our world, as satellites travel in orbit around earth. -Due to how long it would take to describe, I recommend just watching the documentary- But even objects of great matter on earth have this affect. The biggest example, the great pyramids. The ancient egyptians themselves built a time vortex! Standing near the great pyramids alters time, as the matter "pulls time in" a person standing near the pyramids will go slower and come out in the future. Now this isn't as drastic as the black holes effect, and alters time by fractions of a second. But under LSD it may be very possible that an experiment like this with this knowledge may be more evident. Time is just a mind fuck within itself through perception and reality I thought this may be of interest to many of you. There are many great examples other than the two I have provided, and I highly suggest to look it up.
My adolescent explorations into Relativity and Quantum Mechanics I feel were precursors to me being interested in psychedelics . . . reality is far stranger than we can imagine. Wave-Particle duality? That alone shatters everything we think we know about anything :dizzy2:
great doco im sure its a 2 part serires seen it on foxtel u must get into the worm holl with morgan freeman that will trip u out black lotus i hav been reading much f your blogs and replies u r of a hi intelligence been serous whats your occupation i can feel your energy from the computer (HUG)
Very interesting ideas. I'll have to look into that documentary, perhaps next time I trip. I always like to try and wrap my head around this kind of stuff during the latter end of a trip.
It's always so refreshing to see a young person fall head over heels in love with Lucy as Black Lotus has. She shows her true loves the magic ever present in the everyday and mundane. From plastic to planets, it's all a marvelous play being put on solely for you. Time and Space, Life and Death. Light and Dark, it's all playing out in perfection and Love regardless of what our feeble senses may report. Lucy is a pretty nice friend and ever better lover as she reveals the wonder of IT........... Mild mannered supermen are held in Kryptonite and the wise and foolish virgins giggle with their bodies glowing bright....... We've got to get in to get out :sunny:
Agreed Nox... BL, not quite right. Matter is the source of gravity. Gravity alters time. And space. Kind of the same end result but one part of the equation is missing. I'm slowly watching through the wormhole too, I'm a bit disappointed. I was looking forward to it but it is mostly throwing amazing concepts at you with very little explaination. It's one thing to say "the closer to the earth you are the faster time passes" but it's another to help people understand why. Take a look at The Elegant Universe, also on dvd. Brian Greene is pretty good at helping lay people like us understand these crazy stuffs.
Yea because gravity controls time, our feet are older then our heads, because they are closer to the earth gravitating center. Hows that for trippidy do da day.. I think this is why people in India touch your feet, as a sign of respect to the older wiser region of your body (and plus a lot energy flows down there).
That's an INSANE thought. Completely mind-blowing. I remember on one trip where I took a shower, and the sensation of having parts of your body hot (under the water) and other parts of your body cold was just the trippiest thing. Having this idea in my head next trip will be insane!
Thanks for this great thread! Will definitely check out the documentary! May peace and love be with you all <3
this is the reason why i want to try acid so bad. i believe that LSD shows us what really is. it in some way has a relationship with us viewing our physical world. i think if it were just a hallucinogen in my mind, i really wouldn't want to try it. sadly, i don't know if i'll ever get the opportunity.
To only comment on the car-colour thing: This is because higher frequency light, or light with closer wave peaks, is closer to what we see as violet (ultra-violet light is higher frequency than violet, and thus, not properly visible to us) and light with farther wave peaks is red (hence infra-red, light that is lower frequency than red, and thus not properly visible to us). First of all, this is making the assumption that not only is light not the be-all end-all speed, and that it does not travel at a fixed speed, which we do commonly assume about it (I don't know if it's actually even known to be true or not, we have any physicists?) but this is also assuming that our eyes would only notice the difference in the distance between wave peaks. By this logic if we slowed light down enough it would act like AM radio, or micro-waves.... and I don't think it would, I'm not sure the only difference is speed, if that is indeed a difference at all. I think if that was the only difference the shielding on a microwave door wouldn't work, because it works by having holes of the wrong size and spacing to let micro-waves out, but if it was just speed, this clearly wouldn't matter..... After all, the light from the bulb that lets you see your raman spinning around gets through the metal shield just fine. So anyways, that's saying that you would see blue because light is hitting your eye faster, and red because it's hitting your eye slower, and when you think about exactly HOW fast light goes, and HOW slowly a car goes, I'm quite positive that there is no way that you can see the difference, on ANY drug or at ANY level of sobriety. The eye is simply not that sensitive. I'm reasonably sure the math could be done to show we're many orders of magnitude too insensitive to see it, but.... I'm no mathematician. Also, there's lots of reasons to see that, from being on a drug that makes you see pretty colours and fear the police to the fact that most modern headlights are blue-tinged.
All logical thinking RooR but a few oversights... In the sound analogy, it's not that the sound travels faster or slower, it's that the frequency, the peak between the waves, is increased or decreased. With the sound from a speaker, the bass doesn't travel faster or slower than the treble. The difference we perceive is the difference in frequency. The speed of the car causes the doppler effect by changing the frequency, but the sound travels at the same speed in those conditions as all other sounds. This is essentially the same with light. (without getting into the idea that light is both a particle and a wave) Perceiving the tiny difference in frequency caused by a car traveling say, highway speed, in contrast to the speed of light, is essentially imperceptable, I think you're correct there. On the other hand, there are the theories of the effects of psychedelics on our brains filters, particularly the filter that normally throws out all the data that we don't need/can't process. I do think we can observe that which is normally filtered out when on some psychedelics, if we pay close attention. But that could digress to a different discussion. And yes, the speed of light is the be all end all. Oh, except for that little particle anomaly discovered at the LHC that has all the physicists blown away and trying to figure out if they are going to have to rewrite Einsteins work.
Have you ever had that hot AND cold feeling under acid? I seem to experience it all the time. And the reason is... We are constantly both absorbing and releasing energy, continuous fluctuations in the vibrations of our atoms. That's all we are, vibrations. In fact, that's all the most simple "states" of matter really are. Solid, liquid and gas are (technically) an illusion. They're simply points where the atoms are given enough energy to move further away from each other or move closer to each other. Even in the most dense state, there is more space in an atom than matter... Vaguely like a solar system. It's very interesting quite how fractal the whole universe is, the golden ratio is everywhere. If you want to read some trip reports from an astrophysicist... Check out my posts :mickey:
I'm not sure this information will further your argument or not but I figure it's information worth entertaining and using it how you see fit. Our eyes process color and stimuli through rods and cones, cones primarily for light and colors, rods kick in more during the evening. My understanding of the functioning of rods, cones and occipital processes is weaker than some other concepts in physical psychology but to my understanding rods and cones can interact with neurotransmitters, glutamate being one in particular. I came across this abstract on rats suggesting that the primary action of LSD effecting the 5ht2a receptor has a domino effect on an increase in glutamate as well. I tenuously hypothesize from that there is perhaps an interaction with the cones and rods giving the distinct hues and accents on color we perceive on LSD. http://www.psy.fsu.edu/faculty/hull/muschamp_regina_et-al.pdf
