Can anyone tell me about their experience with using Subs for opiate addiction, pain management, or both?
They have saved my life from addiction. They do give pain relief as well. If you need to get on them they will save your life if you really want free from addiction.
Free from addiction..? Suboxone is just as addicting as other opiates. Except its easily prescribed as an addiction treatment.. However everyone I know who has been thru it says suboxone is Alot more difficult to get off of. IN REALITY, its just a legal substitute for street drugs. Nothing more nothing less
It's not just as addictive. It is addictive but first of all, it's a selective agonist. Second of all, users with high tolerances will not be able to get high off it. It's a substitution, you're right, but one that brings with it a much more managable life style. It's certainly a HUGE improvement over methadone. Doctors tend to prescribe ridiculously high doses of it though, which may be why those you spoke to found it particularly challenging to "kick."
Ok. I will 'try' to keep my reply short. But I am one of, if not THE, most well-known Suboxone taker on this forum, so I want to write a good reply. Long story short, I began to self medicate my treatment resistant depression associated with Schizoaffective Disorder three years ago with opioids I got for severe migraines. Eventually I became addicted, but not really that bad. The best choice of my life was getting on Suboxone before my addiction went to far. Yes. I have to see a doctor (for maybe 10 minutes...) once a month, and yes I pay for the meds out of pocket. But it is worth it for the wealth I have received from the medication. First off, I have not touched another opioid whatsoever (and I have had opportunities galore) since Day One of Suboxone Therapy over a year ago. I feel content with Suboxone and my mind is not plagued with 'longing' or 'obsessing' over 'lost' highs with 'better opioids'. Frankly, I get mighty high off of Suboxone. Even over a year later, I still nod out from my prescribed dose of the medicine, and I still feel incredible warmth from the drug. I literally have not increased my dose once. I beat the tolerance by taking Magnesium Glycinate supplements daily (which also help with opioid-induced constipation may I add...) and strictly not taking insanely high doses of the drug (I am taking 2-3 mg per day). Even better, my depressive symptoms are gone. I literally walk through life nearly like a normal person. This is a big fucking deal compared to where I was even a year and a half ago. I have been in and out of psychiatric hosptials, doped up on enough antipsychotics to tranquilize fucking Adolf Hitler, and so depressed and unable to feel any pleasure in life for at least 8 years straight. I tried literally about 20 anti-depressant agents (not all are antidepressants, for example Lithium Carbonate, a bipolar drug) with no success. I am still greatly handicapped by the cognitive decline caused by my disorder (which is simply Schizophrenia + Depression) but I go through life feeling okay with things. Not euphoric (although occasionally on the nod I am euphoric!), but content with how things are working out. If I had not made the rather bold choice to get on Suboxone a year and a month ago, I can only imagine the Hell of life I would still be living. I don't want to imagine it and I don't have to thanks to Suboxone. Feel free to ask me any questions.
I was hoping you would reply etk! Haha. So do you take the tablets or film strips? Do you really have no cravings at all? That's what has made staying sober difficult for me. I know it's hurting me physically and financially but the drugs call to me like a siren. Also do you know how well subuxone works for pain because I have chronic muscle pain that I'm currently using Butrans for (not a particularly effective buperenoriphine transdermal patch). Finally, how's the taste?
I personally don't see a maintainence as addiction. It's just like if you were taking Prozac or some other medicine.
I take the film strips except this month where I got scripted the pills by accident. I prefer the strips though for a multitude of reasons including the fact that the pills are able to be snorted which kind of sends you into an addictive personality-mode. I really don't have cravings. I get a decent high from Suboxone. It isn't like I am on cloud nine, but it is good enough."Enough" is the key word. You have to resign yourself that the days of 80 mg Oxy plus binges are over. And they work great for pain. I burned myself severely with a pressure cooker and I almost had to go to the hospital had it not been that I had Suboxone that I took. It literally completely took the second degree burn pain away.
When i put myself in treatment a couple years ago they put me on 12mg a day. It stops the cravings and gives u some nice mellow euphoria. 16months later(now) im down to 4mg a day. They made getting off of my crazy addiction extremely easy. Now I am addicted to suboxone. I HAVE to have it every day. If it hits the 26hr post dose mark I start withdrawing. Its really a love hate thing . If I could do it all over, I would take the suboxone at never more than 4mg and would try to taper off with in 2 months. I have cravings at my low dose, but I will never go back to oxys. I CAN'T wait to get off subs. But it is as every bit hard as any other opiate. Do your research if u choose it, and get off of it asap. Good luck.
I have carple tunnel syndrome and subs are the only meds I take and they seem to really help the pain.
So I started the Suboxone and it really is nothin short of a miricale drug. My cravings have dropped considerably and I feel like I'm getting good anti depressant effects as well.
Good for you 00. It helps alot. What is your plan with the subs? Short term or long term? And how much are u taking? Can u please share a little about your addiction?
I am taking 2mg twice a day. So far its been really helpful. I probably will be on them for a while because they do help with my chronic back pain that I got from USMC boot camp. As for my addiction I started smoking weed at 15 (Im now 23 as of last October) and slowly moved on to alcohol to cocaine to pretty much everything else. I went to rehab but I went because I was drinking and using cocaine and xanax almost every night. After rehab I don't have much desire to do those drugs any more but because of my pain I started using/abusing oxy off the street. I used any opiate I could get my hands on but I preferred stronger narcotics. I eventually got tired of spending all my money on pills and lying to my family so now I'm on the subs. edit: Actually I went to rehab at Hazelden just outside of St Paul
I didn't say I thought you were addicted.. I didn't even mention you.. I simply used your statement in my response.. but seriously if you want to be free from addiction, don't do drugs anymore lol.. that's what I did, I tried suboxone, didn't work for me, after a while I got sick of being sick.. so I stopped everything completely, the wd's sucked.. but I lived No hard feelings bro, I know how hard it is and sometimes it seems completely impossible to quit.. but I'm glad to hear suboxin worked for you You seem eager to 'attack at me' tho.. lol what's up with that? SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE IS IN DENIAL heh im JK
We have very similar stories. it took me about 8 years of oxys before I wised up though. Did u come to MN just for treatment or are you from here? I almost went to hazleden but didn't want o do a 30+ day deal. Mine was only for 7 but that's all I needed. I wanted off bad, and just had to be commited to get through the first bit of wds. I was on about 400mg a day. I made it 5 days cold turkey than had to go to ER before I jumped back in. That was april of 2010 and I haven't touched them sense. Its all about how bad you want off, and you seem pretty smart/strong so you should be good. Feel free to pm me if u ever wanna or need to bs.
Yeah I just went to MN for treatment. Im from Texas. MN is nice place though. My girlfriend actually goes to school at the UMN so I visit as often as possible.
