A bill to use our military against us

Discussion in 'Politics' started by puffed up in my ford, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. puffed up in my ford

    puffed up in my ford Senior Member

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  2. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    I heard a report (Dallas Times Harold) that the soilders said they would not fire on American citizens. That they would not attack their own families and friends for protesting. That they took an oath to protect our country from foreign and domestic forces, even if it was our own government.

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  3. tricknologist

    tricknologist menace to sobriety

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    If "our" geovernment ever decides to use soldiers against the population, they'll use UN troops while sending our soldiers on some foreign adventure very far away.
     
  4. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    I thought I already posted this:
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27886
     
  5. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    yes its a point for them when the soldiers dont understand the protesters language. In europe we have all the laws already in place to allow foreingers to kill civilians.
     
  6. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Hey, they need to use those FEMA camps somehow, right? [/sarcasm]
     
  7. reb

    reb Member

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    they did this same kind of thing during WWII. then they 'apologized' to the u.s. citizens of japanese, italian and german descent.

    those of us who are libertarians have been saying for 20 years that they were training troops in 'urban combat', that we should not be so cuddly with the u.n.. putting our troops under u.n. command is a mistake. if they take action on this, it might lead to a civil war...i don't think 'our leaders' much care anymore.

    now, we are going to perhaps reap what we have sown...iow, our apathy. the larger part of society may not speak out or care as we are rounded up one by one or in small groups. read anything you can find on late 1930s germany to see the tactics and strategy. history is no longer taught in school 'as it was written'. revisionism is a cruel reeducation like mao used to call it.

    our government-our friend.
     
  8. Techno Overlord

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    If this bill gets passed. Im turning my property into a military installation :)
     
  9. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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  10. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Is this bill going to result is "less government" or more?

    Declare the entire US a "battlefield"? Oh that's great! Does that mean we can then all carry heavy weapons in public and use them on our fellow citizens? Sounds like fun for all the gun nuts!

    I suppose that would also mean citizens are free to attack government institutions as well. Since we are then the declared "enemy" of the state, anything goes, right?

    The funny thing is, this has already been done a number of times. American troops on the streets firing on American citizens. So why do they need a new law to do that?
     
  11. deleted

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    did anyone even read the bill?.
    Its dont apply to us really it dont. Unless your an Al Qaeda sympathizer ..

    Read the Bill if very specific..
     
  12. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    A "Good" Lawyer would run with this line, I think most of us Americans are screwed on this part. :eek:

    Anyone know the definitive guidelines for what might constitute a "Beligerance" which could be interpreted in a court of law as having aided the goals of Al-Quaeda?

    This could go as far as to criminalize the Guy's at Truthout and so forth as they were trying to absolve AlQuaeda in the minds of millions, could be deemed enemy propaganda, as could anything said which went against the Establishments version of the Truth,,
     
  13. BlueLightRain

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    since I can't find anything on the results on google.. does anyone know how to find some?
     
  14. Justin_Hale

    Justin_Hale ( •_•)⌐■-■ ...(⌐■_■)

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    *cough* Anti-American Revolution Bill.
     
  15. reb

    reb Member

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    the word 'belligerent' is an old word, typically used to indicate an enemy of the state in england or the u.s..

    https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Belligerent

    i think-although i cannot find specificity-that the root of the latin word is 'belle' or some such. e.g., 'ante-bellum' usage 'after the war', or 'para bellum'.

    i have no fear at all that the words can be twisted to be stuck right up our collective asses by politicians and lawyers, if that should be seen as necessary.
     
  16. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    Sounds like a policy the US condemned for many years when Russia did it along with those states / countries deemed to be dictator led - Be afraid US
     
  17. indydude

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    They leave these things vague enough to promote arrest and detaining you then leave the lawyers to figure out if its constitutional after decades of courts and millions in legal costs. All the while not doing there elected duty of following the constitution and representing the People.
     
  18. Justin_Hale

    Justin_Hale ( •_•)⌐■-■ ...(⌐■_■)

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    John McCain CONFIRMS that NDAA is for civilians:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2r1JSR8EC8&feature=player_embedded"]INDEFINITE DETENTION OF AMERICANS - New NDAA Bill Passed by Senate - YouTube
     
  19. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    *Reminder* - We've had some great discussion but this the Occupy Movement section.

    Let's please stay on topic and take the discussions which aren't directly related to the Occupy Movement to areas of the forum where they may be a better fit. (Politics, Conspiracy, Latest News, Etc.)

    *Thank You*
     
  20. deleted

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    thread moved, not really relevant to occupy movement..
     

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