It finally happened. I rolled TOO hard. (OJ + MDMA)

A lot of people claim that MDMA (after a certain dose) does not get better with an increase in dosage. I, on the other hand, had never thought that way. Take in mind that I've rolled for 24 consecutive hours before. A few days ago over the course of the night I took slightly over a gram of REALLY good Molly, now I have done this before, but this time one factor changed everything.

ORANGE JUICE!

I like stims for their effect to make me social and want to do things. This time though I was in a couch ridden euphoria (felt good), but it was scary. All I could do was watch light shows and my eyes kept rolling into the back of my head.

Was it really the OJ that did this to me? Does anyone know the exact mechanism behind it.

**My girlfriend and I split a half gallon of the stuff.

 

OJ or not, your brain is fucked beyond 5HTP or any such stuff. Your shit's just fucked, enjoy perminent depression and mood swings and shit.

 

Oj might help prevent neurotoxicity because of Vitamin C but it's not going to make you roll harder... period.

The fact you took over a gram of Molly is obviously the biggest factor. Slow down.

 

Actually orange juice is likely to weaken the MDMA experience if anything. Seasoned speed users know to eat a lot of tums and generally keep their body's pH level as basic as possible, because this makes metabolism of amphetamine slow down. Assuming MDMA is metabolized in a similar way, being a variation of the amphetamine molecule, I can only assume that the same is true; putting bases in your blood extends the roll, putting acids in your blood shortens it.

The reason you rolled too hard is because YOU ATE A GRAM OF MDMA IN ONE NIGHT.

You're welcome

ps. a bullet is much quicker you know . . .

 

The difference between the other time you did a gram and this time was probably just potency. I've heard the OJ myth many times and after only a little bit of research found that it is just that, a myth. You probably just took a gram of less potent molly before, and this time you got some really good stuff. I feel like if you want to do that much molly you should at least split the dose half and half over the course of the night or some other such ratio.

 

I agree with everyone else. You ate over a gram of good molly in one night. No shit you rolled hard. People seem to think OJ makes everything stronger

 

What exactly is it in OJ that is meant to potentiate? Grapefruit juice, yes (bergamottin and 6',7'-dihydroxybergamottin inhibits CYP3A4) but those aren't in OJ. I read somewhere it may be contain false substrates for MAOs but again, can't find the substances said to be involved.

 

what's that enzyme metabolize? opiates?

 

Yeah you did too much MDMA, now you know you shouldn't do that much ever again. I did the same thing once, no lasting effects that I've noticed, but I can see it really fucking you up if you did that regularly or rolled too often. I didn't feel right for about 2 weeks after that, almost put me off MDMA altogether. If you didn't learn from this, you should probably slow down and take half that dose max, or else you're going to regret it in the long run.

 

Lots of stuff. More than half all clinically used drugs and most recreationals - opiates, DXM, MDMA, DMT.

 

You probably did actual MDMA this time and that was the difference.

 

This molly could have just been more pure and stronger then shit you've had previously? You never really can be too sure in the blackmarket with MDMA even if you do have a test kit you can't test the purity.