how do you affectionately and subtly proposition a woman?n

Say you find a woman attractive and you want to have sex with her. Maybe she is a wine maid or barista or somebody else that you don't really know beyond your initial impression of her. How do you proposition her in a way that is gentle and affectionate, but subtle enough that there is plausible deniability over what your intentions are?

It would be nice to proposition a woman and then ask her for her phone number if she seems flattered.

 

you can't. that's why you proposition women you'll never see again if they shoot you down.

what the hell is a wine maid anyway?

 

I think that women have more of a sexual imagination than some of you guys. Sex is not a bad thing.

 

This right here is why what you're trying isn't working. Stop trying to hide the fact that you are sexually interested in a woman when you are sexually interested in a woman and want to pursue her. If you don't try and hide it I guarantee that -alone- will make you ten times more attractive than the other "sly" guys trying to "sneak" their way into her panties. I can promise you if she's a heterosexual woman then she's interested in a man.

 

No, no. Your not understanding me. The question isn't how to be sly at all. In some ways it's bold. I want to be able to say exactly what I want and why I want it just in a subtle way.

 

you could always try backdoorman's line, "baby, your ass is so hot, why i would eat the corn out of your asshole."

more then likely, if you were to use that line, she would bitch slap you silly.

i think we are have a problem helping you, because you need to define what you mean by 'subtle' and 'sly.'
if by 'subtle' you mean, "making use of clever and indirect methods to achive something."
if by 'sly' you mean, "having a cunning and deceitful nature."

i can help you out with an example of how i was 'subtle' yesterday.
i went to pick up a ice cream cake at baskin robbens yesterday.
the girl behind the counter was being a real bitch to the coustomers, and the coustomers were being shitty right back at her.
when my turn up came, she said to me, "what do you want?" she said in shitty voice to me.
now, i could have shot back at her with something like "fuck you too ****!" i did not do that though. i notice the poor girl looked tired and stressed when i first walked into the store. instead i said to her with a sad look on my face, "has it really been one of those kind of days?"
after i said that, her body relaxed right away, and she said to me, "yes it has been! the manager was suppost to have have been here 3 hours ago to help me behind the counter, i feel like i'm being pulled apart in a million diffrent directions!"
after that short exchange between us
she was most friendly and helpfull with me.

i was being 'subtle' with her because the last thing i wanted was to lock horns with 'the bitch from hell.'
:willy_nilly:

if i were a teenager again during that encounter with her, there is one damn good chance we might have hit it off.

liminality, if you get hold of a book entitled, "emotional intelligence" by danial goldmann; you will learn one hell of a great deal of how to become appealing to others.

 

Subtle means you indirectly convey an idea. I didn't use the word sly that was someone else.

 

Found this.

"if I told you you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me."

Not subtle at all but just sweet enough that I might actually want to use it.

 

well, if he's already attractive that will make him much more attractive. if he's already unattractive that will make him much more unattractive.

 

Well if your not honest your not going to get anywhere.

 

Maybe a woman who believes in free love like I do can tell me.

 

eh, it would be nice if it worked that way.

 

''Hi...forgive me for being so bold but I've got to ask...what are your views on casual sex?''

 

Well that is bold! But not rude. However being subtle still has it's uses. If there are other people around as there usually is being too overt can double both mine and her sense of embarrassment.

If this is a free love forum where are the enthusiasts of free love?

 

Won't somebody answer my question? It's a very straightforward reasonable question.

It's an incredibly simple question as well. Despite the fact that some people insist on not understanding it.

 

If you want to really be subtle then it's not what you say it's how you say it. You can let her know your intentions just by the way you look at her, speak with her. The content of the conversation can be on anything and you can still make it clear.

 

Yes, I understand what you are saying. But I want and really need something specific.

Women don't read me very well and they usually assume that I am just trying to get into their pants when that is not even true. Usually they are offended. It's frustrating.

But when I do want to have just sex I want to know how to say it. Obviously given how women in my experience are offended even when there is no sexual intention it seem like a hard thing to communicate in a way that conveys your good intentions.

 

Let me get this straight- women generally assume that you are trying to get into their pants from initial impressions, yet you want to ask how to propose, in a subtle fashion-that you want to get in their pants? What is the problem then?

Perhaps being bold and straightforward is the right way to go. You can either come off as a creepy guy, or not. At least you would know right away.

 

Because bold is not appropriate.

 

Then nothing you want to hear is going to be 100% appropriate. There is no risk free way to casually ask "lets screw" and not come out of this looking like an ass.

The only exception to this is if she already had the same thought about casually having sex with you, and wanted to act upon it.