Help me. Horrible trip.

Okay. I was a regular weed smoker, nothing too crazy. Never had I tripped hard. I decided to smoke K2... a lot... like 2 or three bowls to myself. A family member passed away that night and I was alone, horrible setting. I was blazed and fell asleep and sank into a bizarre nightmare. It was just darkness. Complete darkness.. no sound.. thought... but I felt as if I was in a memory. Yet I recalled nothing specifically, just the feeling of a memory. When I realized I was in this bizzare state I sat up and screamed "its happening again!!!" But i didnt know what. I sat up and saw a hell open up before me. I saw a letter, I think a huge E infront of me, and it would explode in my face and then fade off... and then EXPLODE again for what seemed like forever. And worst... (I have OCD and have had a irrational fear of vomiting since childhood) i thought I was in hell throwing up for what seemed like an eternity. But all while I was analyzing and conscious.

Since then Ive had a hard time with life. Ive been thinking... "was this real? was this my imagination? was it my subconscious assaulting me? was it realizing fear?" ive smoked some weed since but everytime i do I get flashbacks and go back into these states of mind of essentially being raped by my own mind. Its horrible. Am I okay? is this normal for trippers? should i seek help? what is happening to me? sometimes these images and states of mind are so intense and full of despair that i think of ending my own life. PLEASE HELP.

 

Well, it seems the most simple solution would be to not smoke...

That said, I had thoughts of suicide when I was a teen a lot. Part of what helped me through it was anti-depressants. You may have to try several different ones before you find one that will help you, but the doctor can help you with that.

I absolutely, adamantly DO NOT suggest taking anti-depressants as a long-term solution for any problem, but a few months of treatment may be able to "reset" your brain chemistry and get you back into a healthy mental state. It probably saved my life.

 

Thank you so much. I'm taking your advice.

 

The prophet nailed it right on the head about not smoking for a while. That nightmare most likely was a guilt thing, punishing yourself for getting ripped when some one died. Look at that rationally. How could your actions have made any difference? You certainly didn't cause it to happen. Don't waste time with guilt, it's toxic and worthless.

Might be a good time to acknowledge your strengths and think about how you want to grow in other areas. It also sounds a bit lonely, maybe a good time to share some love though not necessarily sexually. Hell, sit down with any good natured dog or cat and have a discussion about life. Good luck and be kind to you.

 

Are you honestly asking this?

You used a crappy "substitute" covered in chemicals known to be full cannabiniod agonists, that is, quite possible and traumatizing to overdose on, and also known to be psychedelic in a rather more hellish way than marijuana during overdose (I rather enjoy a good marijuana overdose, personally..... synthetic cannabinoids are plain scary, and I've never lost control on them, even), AND you did this in a stressful, already traumatic situation, a time when most un-expeienced drug users should not take ANYTHING, even alcohol or real marijuana. Even, in fact, opiates or benzos or anti depressants in my opinion, because they can fuck with how you assimilate painful events, obviously.
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So basically, you set yourself up for a bad time, and then overdosed rather heavily, which in and of itself, is both hellish and dangerous, on this type of chemical. And then you came and asked why it wasn't fun.

Just like you shouldn't take happy pills to deal with non-drug related problems, you need to face the fall-out of your stupidity without chemical help. Think about this shit and face (and understand)it, is what I'd suggest.


Sorry for the illegible post, I tried to limit the run-on's...

 

Thank you for your kind words. I will take them to heart, what I did was stupid and now I just need to face what I did.

 

if you can truly admit to yourself that it was stupid you are on the right path. Sounds like a pretty scary trip

 

Why are you so quick to criticize everyone? He didn't come here asking why it wasn't fun, he's just looking for information about whether or not he has anything to worry about and what he should do to make himself feel better. I can't see any way that your post is helpful except to make him feel worse. Not everyone knows everything about drugs and everyone certainly makes mistakes. There's no reason to bash him for it. You might as well have posted just to say "lol you're a dumb shit." That's about how helpful you're being and it seems from what he wrote that he already knows he made a mistake. Being mean to someone who's obviously been through something really horrible is just unnecessary. Why not just be nice?

The only advice I have for the OP is to stay away from any drugs for a while, and especially avoid synthetic cannabinoids. Legal weed substitutes are serious drugs and not to be taken lightly. Eventually I would imagine that you should be able to smoke weed again with little problem, but if and when you do, just take it easy until you're comfortable with it again. If you continue to have these kinds of experiences then simply stay away from drugs. It seems like this experience was traumatizing enough that you shouldn't have any trouble doing that. Please don't give any real thought to taking your life, as cliche as the statement is, it's a long term solution to a short term problem, and it doesn't solve anything. It just creates a great deal of sorrow for everyone who loves you.

 

Pretty sure I said everything you said, and considerably MORE, I explained WHY that drug did that, WHY he should not have taken it then, WHY it would be moronic to medicate away any distress he feels as a product of his trip, etc. The difference is I was not ass-kissingly nice about his stupidity. He shouldn't be coddled for doing retarded shit, he should be told exactly how retarded it is and exactly why it is that retarded. It is not acceptable to take drugs you don't understand or take dosages you have not worked up to, or take drugs in an unnacceptable set or setting. He should be told these, and if he already violated these obvious guidlines, he should be called out, may it help him think twice before doing something so stupid next time.

He's an embarassment to any responsible drug user anywhere, and should be told that this is totally fucking unacceptable.

For fucks sake, he asked about taking other happy pills to medicate away his LAST drug-induced problem....

 

also i would like to point out that it probably isn't the best idea to come on a forum asking for a bunch of peoples' opinions and then blindly follow the very first person that posts something

and i say this with absolutely no bias as to whether or not someone should take medication to solve their problems. just weigh your options before you jump in head first please

 

I don't see any mention by the OP of taking pills as a solution. I may be missing something. My only point is that there are more polite ways of giving advice than you're employing. I feel that if someone is in the type of mental state where they could be considering suicide, they need positive reinforcement, not negative. I understand that the things he's describing doing are completely wrong, but people do a lot of stupid things when they're in unstable emotional states. The most helpful solution is to help return them to a stable condition. You can give plenty of helpful advice in a polite way, and there's no danger of causing any harm while trying to help. I'm not saying that he should be hurt by what you said, but I realize that it is a possibility considering his emotional state. Again, I don't mean to be argumentative, I'm simply suggesting something for consideration. I'm a big fan of politeness.

 

Speaking as an old hippy, I know I did stupid things when I was younger, and it is probably fair to say that most of us did, back in the day. It's part of growing up and learning common sense. I remember having really crazy drug experiences and I am just lucky that I got away with it relatively unscathed. The OP had an experience that badly frightened him and has come on here asking for advice and help. It is likely that he doesn't have anywhere else he can go to ask for help.
A bit of caring and compassion doesn't cost anythng and can go a long way towards helping someone feel better. Calling people "retarded" and "stupid" doesn't help at all, and I think the OP is well aware that he made a mistake. He doesn't need to be scolded like a naughty child as well. Can we please please show a bit of caring for each other on here.
With any luck, compassion will be there for you if there ever comes a day when you need it.
What comes around goes around.

 

Very well said, I agree. I hope the OP did get some help here, a fair number of folks did offer genuine compassion

 

Okay, I made a mistake man. How was I supposed to know k2 would blow my mind? Maybe it was a horrible decision to smoke something that I knew only of what friends told me, but sounds to me as if you are bolstering your own ego by shredding me to pieces. Yeah, I made a big mistake, but to call me an "embarrassment to drug users everywhere" is an asinine statement. Obviously I learned my fucking lesson if I was (at one point) contemplating taking my own life. I don't need a pompous jerk ridiculing me on an internet forum.

Anyways, I appreciate all of the insight I have been given. You are all nice people, I am doing much better. I did not mean to start a heated debate, you all should be enjoying your time.

 

There's nothing asinine what so ever about calling you an embarassment. You are. It's people like you that are used to make chemicals like this illegal for everyone. If you're taking a drug, you need to do your homework, period. If you trust your friends, maybe they count as homework, but they obviously can not be trusted and you obviously can not be trusted to take drugs.

I understand that people do stupid things. It's your self righteous stupidity and self pity that bothers me. And you're still doing it, you call ME names and whatnot, but have no reason whatsoever (other than your flimsy idea that I'd bother tearing you down to bolster myself-I could do much better than the likes of you, if that's what I wanted) to support what you're saying about me. I, however, have a post full of reasons that support what I said. Being so defensive does nothing to help you.

 

In 'shacks defense, with all the info available on the web these days there is no excuse for not being informed about the possible effects and side-effects of drugs.
If pot's not enough for you, and you simply must seek out the latest synthetic mind altering substance, then the owness is on you when you find yourself damaged.
I honestly don't understand why weed and the occasional 'srooms isn't enough for these kids nowadays.

ZW

 

Well, regardless, the other folks helped me very much. I do not want to argue, I came here for help and I received it. Thanks everyone, you are good people. I will not make a mistake like this again.

 

Frequently, drugs serve to intensify and enhance reality. If the reality is difficult, dope may make it worse. I'd lay off the stuff and figure out what's going on, maybe talk to a counselor or someone, before I indulge in any further substances.

 

it was that K2 shit, I'm telling you.
don't smoke for a while and keep your mind clear.
the wrong kind of shit can do crazy things to your mind.
keep these words in mind:
It's just a trip
if that doesn't work seek help, because it's better than losing your mind or life, and it's better than doing something that will get you in trouble with the law while not in your right mind

 

you told the truth and left yourself open to criticism, which is admirable. wishing you good mental health and a happy new year