Penn State Child Sex Scandal: Sandusky Guilty!

horrible horrible thing that has been allowed to happen and continue happening here..

makes my soul hurt.. those poor children that this monster has destroyed.

i know it's just going to get worse.. tip of the iceberg

 

one of the victims has said.. "you don't tell jerry no" .. which makes me think this monster uses a lot of mind games with these children.. (and the staff at penn state)

fucking sad.. i just can't believe humans still are doing this kind of shit to each other.. especially to children.. i wanna murder this monster myself!

 

I thought the same thing Boog, this is just terrible

 

Thanks Skip for finally putting this up. I was wondering about this topic. Truly sorry for the young men who were assaulted. And shame on the people who try to cover this up to save a reputation .

 

Unfortunately rife... And those with influence are often the ones to get away with it the longest...

 

Evidently so.

Victim's sister: Penn State students joke about being "Sanduskied"
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_1...n-state-students-joke-about-being-sanduskied/

This makes me sick just thinking about it!

 

i'm surprised you think that Skip... in the Sandusky case there seems to be loads of evidence, but i fail to see how you could compare that with Michael Jackson's case... what evidence (MJ case)??? (off topic slightly, so can i request you send me pm regards the evidence against MJ please)

 

Yeah, football centered schools attract douchebags.

I mean, it's a sport where the goal is to be the most aggressive douchebag you can be...... So it's little wonder that the star coach is a sadistic shit, and his players rally behind that.

 

I always hated Penn State football. What goes around comes around. Those who knew about this child molestation ring and neglected to come forward are just as responsible as those who actually raped those children. The whole notion that Penn State students rioted for the firing of a child predator is just disgusting. It doesn't fucking matter if he led you football team to several winning seasons in a 45 year period. If my favorite team's coach did anything of that nature I'd have no problem seeing him barred from the stadium and human contact forever.

Fuck Penn State

 

you should try living in this state..

its a joke..

 

In the early, mid 90's, my autistic son went to a few events given by the 2nd mile...I was with him. We're talking over 15 yrs ago....not that Sandusky wasn't doing horrific acts at that time. There are many more stones to be turned over. The fact that the initial DA is still vanished, I believe, may be the investigatory place to begin. NO adult human can validate preying on a child. And to think, we pride ourselves as being a civilized society ? This and any child who is manipulated to the (sic) sexual advances of any adult is inhumane. Persons with a mind set such as Sandusky whouldmake up the huge prison population...fuck imprisoning drug offenders, thiefs, robbers (unless they are armed with a lethal weapon). etc. This is getting off point but I can't stomach the prison industry om this country.

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My understanding is that the case against Jackson was circumstantial- that he was a weirdo but not actually a child molester. It's not like the media/press are entirely honorable when ruining a reputation is necessary for ratings or to sell a few more copies. My understanding also was that the one suit was settled out of court in order to avoid a protracted media circus as well as the damage to the marketability of the name Michael Jackson that details of his eccentricity regardless of whether he was actually guilty of molestation.

For the money that he supposedly had there seemed to be a dearth of people coming out of the woodwork claiming victimization- unlike with Sandusky.

The mother of Jackson's accuser, Janet Arvizo, had a rather checkered history herself, including shoplifting and welfare fraud- paying $8.600 in restitution. The family had also tried to extort money from other celebrities.

It would seem that the accusers were looking to cash in on Jacko's weirdness as the mom went to an attorney instead of police to instigate the action. He was acquitted of criminal charges.

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It would seem that Sandusky had a long pattern of heinous behavior- enabled by the silence of Paterno as well as others... akin to the Catholic church protecting problem priests by reassigning them when issues arose instead of confronting the problem. If the allegations are true then let Sandusky be convicted legitimately.. if that is possible with the media circus and kangaroo court of public opinion. It's something I've been suckered into myself. Issues like child molestation give rise to understandably strong emotions. Hopefully the justice system will work and if he is guilty he will rot in prison.

JMO

 

There is no way he'll do time in this state. He will be protected, and even though most STATE cases serve time in the State they were prosecuted in. Its highly unlikely this guy will be serving time in the State Pen /SCI (?)Pennsylvania.

Ill bet all my green rep balls on it.
If a conviction happens. The inmate will serve some time @ Camp Hill in PC- protective custody. Where he will be transferred to another state.

Protective custody may as well be the RHU(hole). There is no freedom, lock down 24/7 one hour of rec 3x week, 3 showers a week all while supervised..
And nobody will put a finger on him.

 

Or somehow he'll end up with Federal charges instead of state...then who knows what might happen.

 

In dealing with sex offenders we talk about the "Ripple" effect in terms of the harm done. The victims are at the epicenter of pain but it doesn't stop there. The victims familys are hurt, the offenders family is hurt, the community is hurt and on it goes. Its an evil that keeps on giving. It really pisses me off that decent men who love their kids or grandkids or whoever will be looked at as potential offenders. Innocent men may hesitate to show their affection and love of kids and the kids will be denied the warmth of genuine love.

Talk about fucked up, this is a real mess for all of us.

 

Yeah, I agree with you. Bringing up Michael Jackson is completely uncalled for. The dad was trying to make money from MJ through his kid. There's even an audio recording of him bragging about getting rich and ruining him. The son actually ended up getting a restraining order after his father hit him with a dumbbell. And eventually the father committed suicide, and was said to be depressed.

Michael loved kids, and was one himself, stuck in a man's body. He was abused as a child, and to accuse him of the very thing he hated is just wrong. He also had his own children and trust me, if he was a child molester, he would have abused them, too. That would have been obvious a long while back.

Real hippies don't automatically judge! The case was so fabricated, but of course, the media had a ball with it, and a lot of people easily got deceived.

Sorry to be off-topic, but I had to get that out there. About Penn State, that is incredibly disgusting and shocking! Why doesn't this country have castration laws? It's a very reasonable punishment for such atrocities.

 

I'd say the Penn State/Sandusky case seems more analogous to the isolated patterns of abuse within the Catholic church with priests exploiting their authority status as well as the church practice of protecting them instead of the helpless victims.

When the abuse of children is involved our reactions tend to exit the bounds of the rational with regard to affording offenders the rights that are supposed to protect them from unfair treatment by the criminal justice system because, well quite frankly it's quite difficult to advocate that because in the case that such charges are proven it's held they really don't deserve any such consideration- after all, they had no such consideration for their victims.

But we're supposed to be living in a civilized and evolved society; a place where even those who are to be proven guilty are entitled to a fair trial- that includes Sandusky, priests, etc. We certainly don't have to like it (and no, I do not) BUT if we were to find ourselves smeared with untrue charges of the ilk that Sandusky faces, we would want to have in place a system of justice based on facts that would precipitate an acquittal rather than a court system that avails itself to high emotions and lynch mob mentalities that enable convictions based on perceived weirdness rather than factual evidence.

I was never a fan of Michael Jackson or his music. There was a time when I allowed his image as an extreme oddball to sway me into presuming his guilt- which was not proven in court. Unlike the Sandusky case or the ongoing drama with the Catholic church there were not a large number of victims coming out of the woodwork- it appeared to be a case of extortion- either pay up or your reputation will be ruined. It seems that by what's being posted that the payoff didn't prevent the destruction of the name... though in reality he did it to himself.

With Penn State, it's more than a simple act of molestation... as Skip rightly pointed out it was the use of authority to squelch any urge to intercede on behalf of the victims. It was the working case of screwed priorities where the reverence of all that was attached to a football tradition trumped the seemingly common sense responsibility to protect the most vulnerable among us. To me it shows how our sports-crazed culture becomes more of a disease than distraction from the drudgery if life. We can condemn all we want the system that enabled a long pattern of abuse but anyone who proudly wears team colors and plans their spare time around any sports event- whether it be college or pro- owns at very least a small measure of that disease. Hell, my sports allegiances suggest my own culpability.