Would YOU vote for RON PAUL

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  1. Individual

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    The financial crisis came about through government actions, and the bailouts were made by government and continue to be. The government continues to try and manipulate the housing market, when they should just allow the bubble to collapse naturally.

    Although I don't pay much attention to Paul Krugman, his figures in this case are likely about right, but relative to GDP growth over the same period it's not a big deal. Although I retired in 1998, my income more than doubled from what I made in 1979.

    Class warfare is continually promoted as "The rich aren't paying their fair share." when in reality they are paying quite a large share while a great number are paying no share at all, and they most often are the ones complaining the loudest. The rich provided me a source of increasing my own wealth, and if they would or could be eliminated, who would then provide the funding for all the government programs and services that so many have become dependent upon?
     
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  3. SapphireNeptune

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    Someone with the s/n Lesbian Bliss supports a candidate who is against gay rights, interesting. This is the cult of personality Ron Paul has managed to develop around himself.
     
  4. eatlysergicacid

    eatlysergicacid Creep in a T-Shirt

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    He's not against gay rights, he's against federal government regulation on marriage rights. We don't need a law to be passed giving gay people rights, we just need for there to not be any law passed removing their rights, which Paul is opposed to on a federal level.
     
  5. Lesbian_Bliss

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    You'd have to be a very dangerous person for RP to be against your rights.
     
  6. SunLion

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    No. He is against having a government strong enough to protect any rights of any kind. Works well in Somalia. Worked in North America through about fifteen generations of slavery too.




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  7. Individual

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    Just which rights would Ron Paul not protect?
     
  8. Individual

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    15 generations of slavery? Based on that slavery was ended only about 17 years ago, and if you're trying to use the discovery of the Americas to obtain your generations, slavery had existed for thousands of years prior.
     
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    Ron Paul: Hemp for Victory
    America's most famous libertarian talks about making hemp legal again—
    and what budget cuts he and liberals can agree on.

    Medical Ethicist on Corporate Control
    One of the major themes raised by the Occupy movement is the increasing power of large corporations over more and more aspects of our lives. We spend the hour looking into the issue of the corporate control of life itself. Our guest, Harriet Washington, is a medical ethicist and has just published a book that examines the extent to which what she calls the medical-industrial complex has come to control human life. In the past 30 years, more than 40,000 patents have been granted on genes alone—many more patents are pending. Washington argues that the biotechnology and pharmaceutical companies patenting these genes are more concerned with profit than with the health or medical needs of patients. Her new book is called "Deadly Monopolies: The Shocking Corporate Takeover of Life Itself—And the Consequences for Your Health and Our Medical Future."

    The Police State Cometh by Rep.Ron Paul

    Congressman Ron Paul: Archives

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLdcB0ln9t8&feature=player_embedded"]Nader, Ron Paul and Kucinich
    U2b, comrads in arms supporting the Occupy Wall St. protest.

    "No class or group or party in Germany could escape its share of responsibility for the abandonment of the democratic Republic and the advent of Adolf Hitler. The cardinal error of the Germans who opposed Nazism was their failure to unite against it. ....the 63% of the German people who expressed their opposition to Hitler were much too divided and shortsighted to combine against a common danger which they must have known would overwhelm them unless they united, HOWEVER TEMPORARY, to stamp it out."
    -William L. Shirer, author;
    "The rise and fall of the Third Reich" **p.259**

    Drug War Profiteers:
    Book Exposes How Wachovia Bank Laundered Millions for Mexican Cartels

    How Killer Student Debt and Unemployment
    Made Young People the Leaders at Occupy Wall Street

    Obama Says Drug Users Must Be Treated as Criminals? Nothing new about that. He was trying to out dung worrier sir hilary. With nothing but bogus opposition since the git go by Neocon idiots robbing the Treasury for 8 years and not a peep. Two wars for profit, no bid contracts. Not a peep. A trillion on the drug war and nothin. Two more bailing out Banksters that cripples and seniors are supposed to pay for. Every attempt to stop Corporate welfare blocked. Every attempt to create jobs maintaining the infrastructure blocked. The top fucking priority is abortion. Not a word from the hypocrites aborting more babies on the US chemical cotton crop throughout the bible belt. They protest and legislate against condoms causing more abortions. They drop bombs on pregnant women. Then they de-fund Planned Parenthood that has prevented more abortions than all the religionist dung worrier wingnuts combined.

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    Occupy Everywhere

    Organizer Labels Own Poll Irrelevant After Ron Paul Wins
    Paul Joseph Watson | Results only count if

    Neocon Teabogs Really Are "Bloodlusting Terrorists"
    How Neo-Cons, Neo-Nazis And Neo-McVeighs
    Crashed Ron Paul’s Tea Party

    The Tea Party, which started off as a Libertarian protest against taxes and government, has turned into a right wing, corporate sponsored, racist hate-fest. Three groups have joined the Libertarian founders of the Tea Party movement to add money, racism, hatred and conspiracy theory based paranoia to the Tea Pot.


    Kochaine A.L.E.C. Drug Detention Centers
    $72,000.00 a head... Tax paid Teabogs...

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    Ron Paul's "death knell" was siding with the Wingnuts.

    I think there is a theory, a theory of evolution, and I don't accept it. ... The creator that I know created us, each and every one of us and created the universe, and the precise time and manner. ... I just don't think we're at the point where anybody has absolute proof on either side.
    —Ron Paul, Nov. 1,
    Remarks made at a state Republican Party meeting in Spartanburg, S.C.


    While it is evident that the human right to produce and use energy does not extend to activities that actually endanger the climate of the Earth upon which we all depend, bogus claims about climate dangers should not be used as a justification to further limit the American people's freedom. —
    —Ron Paul,
    Speech on House floor opposing cap-and-trade legislation, June 4, 2009
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    Monsanto Hid Decades Of Pollution
    Now they know. They also know that for nearly 40 years, while producing the now-banned industrial coolants known as PCBs at a local factory, Monsanto Co. routinely discharged toxic waste into a west Anniston creek and dumped millions of pounds of PCBs into oozing open-pit landfills. And thousands of pages of Monsanto documents -- many emblazoned with warnings such as "CONFIDENTIAL: Read and Destroy" -- show that for decades, the corporate giant concealed what it did and what it knew.

    The Big Picture: A 40-Year Scan of the Right-Wing Corporate Takeover of America
    Don Hazen, Colin Greer / AlterNet
    Author and public intellectual Colin Greer tells us how we got where we are today. It's not a pretty picture, but hope is on the way.

    Feds blocks FDA-approved marijuana research

    Koch Brothers Flout Law Getting Richer With Secret

    NRA bought mandatory minimums

    Team Boehner's Tea Party Hypocrisy

    Tell Holder: Protect Every Citizen's Right to Vote!
    One of the main players in the photo ID component has been the American Legislative Exchange Council, otherwise known as ALEC, who, as you know, is funded in part by the Koch brothers, the billionaire brothers from Kansas. And what ALEC did, was after the 2008 election, they drafted mock legislation for states to then pass, and what happened is, in five of these states that passed photo ID laws, the legislation was cosponsored by members of ALEC and in three states, Texas, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, the draft legislation that ALEC gave them was basically almost identical to the legislation introduced. We see ALEC playing a major role.
    ~ ARI BERMAN

    *"The GOP War on Voting,” by Ari Berman (Rolling Stone)

    The Corporate Muzzle
    Trolls of Fascism

    "The whole art of government consists in the art of being honest."
    --Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774.

    So Overturn the (CSA) Controlled Substance Ax

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  10. SapphireNeptune

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    Yeah except Ron Paul has no problem with laws banning gay marriage, gay adoption, sodomy laws, and a plethora of others as long as the states are doing it instead of the federal government. This isn't the position of someone who supports LGBT rights, but it is however more proof for the fact the rallying call of state's rights has historically and currently never been used except to do terrible things.
     
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    He's the only candidate that has known where he stands all along and isn't afraid to use language that all classes will understand. He is pro-constitution and has seen and experienced many years. He's cool in my book. Haven't chosen my vote yet, but he is considered.
     
  12. Individual

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    I'm surprised to see the Constitution mentioned with a positive connotation. Even elected politicians serving in our Federal government appear willing to state openly, and unapologetically, that "Most of what we do here is NOT allowed by the Constitution."
    The purpose of the Constitution was NOT to provide the laws applicable to the governed, but instead the Government. Ron Paul appears to be one of the few who really understands the Constitution and its importance in application of governance from the Federal level.
    If the ballots allowed 2 choices, requiring the winner to acquire a majority of the votes cast, with 2nd choice votes distributed in the event of no clear winner, perhaps we could move away from a 2 party system which allows a 3rd party to serve only as a spoiler in our elections. Often our elections require voting for the lesser of two evils while eliminating voting for one we would really give our support, just to assure the greater evil is not elected.
     
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    Well the last GOP Debate has been Fun ... SO CNBC Puts up a poll for your thoughts ;)

    Ron Paul: 30.8 12,570
    Herman Cain: 21.6 8,795
    Mitt Romney: 21.5 8,763
    and so on ....

    CNBC Regrets to tell you they have removed the poll :D

    CNBC also had Facebook polls as well to which they have removed and one they have put back in place to reset it :) but never the less ron paul is still dominating those polls so will be removed.

    Bill O'Reilly site decided to have a poll as well :D

    Needless to say this morning while the poll Showed Ron Paul at 73% while the others where contending for 12% was taken down :p

    Welcome to your mass media Where Clinton was crying about them losing Influence on the people back in spring :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6sYB5d1Bu4"]RT Win: Clinton asks for cash as US 'losing world info war' - YouTube
     
  14. Individual

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    The recent Cain/Gingrich debate is what we need more of, and I would like to see Ron Paul and Mitt Romney square off against each other on the same issues. The previous debates provided little insight on how each candidate would govern as the moderators seemed to only try and pit one candidate against another. I think it's time Huntsman, Santorum, Bachmann, and Johnson withdrew, and reduced the field to just Romney, Cain, Gingrich, and Paul. I still see Paul as our best hope, and could give my support to Gingrich or Cain, but Romney needs to be shown for what he is, and that being a Democrat in Republican clothing. Social engineering is best accomplished by the gradual reduction of choices, narrowing the difference between the choices, and eventually we find we no longer have any choice. Ron Paul is the only one who wishes to return government to operating under the Constitution and allowing us to once again be free to make individual choices, taking more responsibility for our own lives.
     
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    Constitution, choice and responsibility are great buzzwords but when you actually look at what they mean in the mind of a right wing libertarian they mutate into something so crooked and twisted that even they can’t defend them from criticism.

    Ideas that only ever seem to serve the interests of wealth to the detriment of the majority.
     
  16. Individual

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    Well, the Constitution is the Supreme law under which our Federal government is supposed to operate.

    Choice and responsibility go hand in hand with one another, and in a free society each individual bears the responsibilities of their individual choices.

    Wealth is derived from the accumulation of good choices.
     
  17. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    Mustang, you forgot 1 more option in the poll

    #10: "No, I am not a fucking DUPE! I know God damn well that the American political system is a motherfucking sham and a shellgame being played on we the people and refuse to sign my acceptance of this game by voting into it's corrupt system and I'm tired of watching the various herds of fucking doe eyed sheeple get herded to the polls and bleating nonsense at each other every 4 goddamned years!"

    Besides, as Politicians go, I really LIKE Ron Paul, I'd hate to see him get Assasinated like Kennedy as he most likely would were he "Elected" to office.
     
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    Thank you CBS for the Failure of a debate tonight, You have epically shown how biased you are when clearly bought out ... Given What Ron Paul 90 Secs air time? and only 2 other questions after going pure streaming for the rest of the debate ...

    And How thoughtful of them To create a poll with him not in it ...
     
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    It should be obvious that the main stream media, Republican party, and Democrat party, are all intent on Mitt Romney becoming the Republican candidate to run against Obama. We don't need a third party, we need to return to having a second party, which is willing to act in opposition to the politicians running our government today.


    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

    Just a few of the goals already accomplished, and only a very few left to go.
     
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