Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

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  1. thedope

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    I have just given you the keys to the kingdom, I am not translating. Monkey boy just quoted what I said.
    Yes our salvation goes through our brother, whatever two or more of us agree on, it shall be done. Everything arises with conception. God doesn't need cooperation, he is one, and very cooperative. We are on the same page, but you don't recognize because you are getting caught up in the form of your rhetoric.
     
  2. arthur itis

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    There is a new heaven and a new earth spoken of in the bible, with the New Jerusalem. Nothing old remains through eternity. It all has been made new.


    The "world", with its commerce and religion, came into being through men acting outside of the presence of God, and without the divine fellowship, as an issue of the fall of man. Adam left the presence of the Lord, and his son Cain had sons through whom the elements of the present world came into being,,weapons,,housing,,entertainment. Read Genesis 6.

    The world acts outside of the kingdom of the heavens, while the believers, composing the church, are, those who are born of God, having a heavenly nature and a heavenly source. They are "not of the world", even as Christ is "not of the world".

    We are admonished to live a heavenly life on earth, while existing within the world, in our being we are separate from it, due to Christ own nature, dwelling within.

    (Colossians 3:1-7)


    (John 17:14-17)
     
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    Okay. You are the salt of the world. Your seasoning is the act of the world, the choice is, what flavor.
     
  4. arthur itis

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    Being the "salt" of "the earth" (not, "the world", though it makes little difference in function) means that God's people, having the divine life, "salt" the earth, to preserve it. Salt kills the elements of decay. This is the effect God's people have on the earth, inhibiting the elements of decay.
     
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    Everything is as it is because we insist that it be so. Money for example exists by virtue of our agreement to participate in exchanging our value for paper or key strokes.
     
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    Very good. Let us be gods people then. Gods people are not sinners. God created everyone. Heaven is not complete if we leave even one out. Gods holiness envelopes all as it moves through us.
     
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    Oh great. Theoretically, or factually? Practically we shall only succumb to wicked feelings for the objectivity of Existence.:sunny:
     
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    If you believe that love entails sacrifice, you will hesitate to love as you ponder whether it is worth it or not.
     
  9. arthur itis

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    "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

    "Even as it is written, "There is none righteous, not even one;" Romans 3:10


    God created everyone, in Adam. Adam sinned, and partook of something that had it's source in the satanic life. Adam's nature changed, and through Adam, all of mankind also inherited the element of sin. This element exists until we are glorified, and our bodies are transfigured at the Lord's coming.

    However, with those who are regenerated, having God's life, and having been born of God in their human spirit, there is the possibility of transformation, of being permeated with the life of God through fellowship of the divine life. This sets us free from the principle of sin and death.

    Romans 7:24-8:2

    and verse 10:
     
  10. arthur itis

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    Love, the real love, isn't something initiated by us, but is an issue of a life in God, who is love.
     
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    Very well, you will hesitate to allow gods love to flow through you. I want you to live.
     
  12. arthur itis

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    What I will "hesitate" to do is to act out something that is insincere, or unreal, pumped up by my natural emotions, as a "display", or a "selling point", rather then the genuine love, which is unconscious and spontaneous coming from one who is living in God.

    I don't make "love" my God. God is love, not the reverse. Many espouse "love", but it's not the genuine article.
     
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    Are you a man of god?
     
  14. arthur itis

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    I suppose so, though I can't boast, except in Him.

    "You did not choose Me, but I chose you,,,," John 15:16a
     
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    Friend, god is love. You are created in the likeness and image of god, hence, you are love. You are love seeking love in all things, you become upset because you can't find it. The reason you cannot see this is because you have judged against your brother for whatever reason, like you believe the bible says that god has judged against him.
     
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    I feel the same way. I was touched early in life. We need be vigilant only for god and his kingdom. We need not guard ourselves against sin as our father does not lead us into temptation, but delivers us from evil. Let the spiritually dead, if there is such a thing, bury themselves. Go and sin no more.
     
  17. arthur itis

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    Man, meaning Adam, was created in the likeness and image of God, but man was an empty vessel, having not partaken of the tree of life. Man, as an empty vessel, was created good, with a good intention to do God's will. But man fell, in Adam, and gained another, self-defeating nature in regards to doing God's will. This is why Paul states that there is no law that could bring forth righteousness. Man is unable to keep the law of God, no matter his intention.

    Read Romans 7, regarding the failure factor, and Romans 8, regarding the way of salvation.

    So, God came in to redeem, through Christ the Son.

    I don't accept your summation. It doesn't ring true to my experience, nor my understanding.
     
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    I'm taking a short break, to run some laundry over to the laundromat, since our dryer is on the fritz.
     
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    To sin is to miss the sign of god. At this point christians, if you miss it, you are not looking for it. You have been told it has been given you in your brother.
     
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    But is all evangelism essentially modernism going against the grain of tradition? When it does so it finds that God does not participate in the knowledge of progress but the knowledge which is but personal for the trust in God, or Gods.

    Such a love was in the personal understanding of the place and time of the over all bible in relation to events and their changing. Also, a love becomes in the particular event for the immediate conscience of one's immediate belonging in the formal Being, often against Knowledge.

    Prophesy is only a formal being over and beyond knowing the truth objectively.
     
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