Is Obama a Shoe-In for Re-election?

The people are afraid of anyone who speaks the truth. Because the truth is scary. He is one of the only politicians that I have noticed doesn't change his stance on issues every 5 minutes.

We had this discussion at work the other day about having another 4 years of Obama. I agree....unless someone shows up that really has a chance.

 

You're joking right?! Ron Paul HAS NEVER been a serious contender for president, EVER! Don't get me wrong he spits a good game, but most people are not gonna go for legalization of all drugs and the ending of government "welfare" programs, especially in a recession. Besides Democrats are just better to have in power during a recession anyways. Economically it works, it's just too bad Obama has a bipartisan disposition that borders on battered person(wife) syndrome.

 

Obama ran on a platform of getting us out of Iraq, getting us deeper into Afghanistan, closing the prison at Guantanamo, and passing a national health care plan. How much of that did he get done?

He can't take any credit for Iraq, because Bush set the timetable for our departure, and Obama didn't change it. He did ramp things up in Afghanistan, but he has no results to show for it. That isn't a win. Guantanamo is operating as usual. A watered-down version of health care passed, but key portions may very well be ruled unconstitutional. On those items, I give him a score of 0.5 out of 4.

The economy tanked after the election, so it wasn't discussed much during the campaigns. Bush started the bailouts, and Obama continued them. No big win there. The job stimulus package didn't work because it was too small. Obama has never communicated much interest in economics. Mostly, he seems to be waiting for the economy to get better on its own, so he can get back to focusing on his favorite subjects.

Getting Bin Laden was a plus, but it was only a matter of luck that he surfaced on Obama's watch. Nobody can hide forever, and any President would have given the order to take him out.

Libya is a true victory for Obama. Other Presidents might have handled that far differently, and gotten a different end result. The American casualty total of zero is one thing Obama can legitimately be proud of.

On general leadership ability, I give Obama the lowest possible score. He has no clue how to lead an organization of diverse people. Even Jimmy Carter was better at it.

In spite of his overall weak performance, I have no doubt that Obama will be re-elected. The Republicans have nobody. Cain is selling books, not running a serious campaign, and Romney puts everyone to sleep. Nobody else is a contender. Cain or Romney will only get votes from the far-right base, and some protest/frustration votes. The Republican party has gone too far right to produce a candidate that more than 50% of the people will seriously consider. Some third-party candidate will probably make some noise, but won't raise enough money in time to have an impact.

I can only hope that Hillary will change her mind about running next time.

 

I see lots of people thought the same way I did. Too bad i can't tell you my vote. I had a secret ballot.

 

HAHAHA!!! I broke the tie and No, not even close is now in the lead!!

Obama is a complete failure, he has done nothing right concerning domestic policy. I would go so far as to say that the only things he has ever done successfully are elections, Natasha, Malia, Al-Awlaki and bin Ladin. I dunno, should I include his marriage to Chewbacca a success?

In all seriousness, what has this man accomplished. The main thing that he has accomplished, Health Care Reform, is going to be a disaster for the American people. Government can not run anything effectively and efficiently. Fundamentally, it can not and will never happen.

The jobs created from the first stimulus cost over $400,000 a piece. So, I saw Biden on Youtube saying that "Nobody can look you in the eye and say the stimulus didn't create jobs" Yes, it created jobs, you asshole. But at what price? Biden, you are a fucking moron and I would love to tell you that to your face. I would be more polite about it.

He has broken many lies, he has spent an inconceivable amount of money, and he thinks we the people are here to serve him. He thinks he is smarter and better than we the people. He is an arrogant, ignorant, unAmerican Marxist and I want W. back.

Obama, Biden, Holder, Reid, Pelosi and most of the rest of the democrats do not give a crap about us little people. Just like the tyrannical rulers of Europe back in the day. Most of those politicians are rich anyways, and they use their positions to fatten their purses. Republicans can be bad, BUT THESE DEMOCRATS ARE FUCKING DISGUSTING!!!!!

 

Thing is, anybody will be a better President. Every single person on the Republican ticket is more qualified and will be more effective in the White House than Obama. Problem is, some people are so addicted to government cheese that they will continue to vote for the destruction of America in the hopes that they won't have to work to hard.

I pray that Cain runs a good election and gets people excited. Also, I pray that the white supremacists can see past their hate of the black man and do what's right. Cain will destroy Obama in the debates, because I could destroy Obama in the debates. Obama has nothing positive in his record. The problem is that Obama is going to LIE HIS ASS OFF in the campaign, and people are going to buy into that crap.

Vote Cain 2012!!

 

I voted for Obama. I didn't and don't expect him to do a lot of things that others seem to feel he can easily do. However, I don't see him doing things which I'm sure he could urge a movement toward - such as legalizing marijuana. Other things he has done or is not doing are disturbing to me...yet I still like him better than the Republicans.

Oddly enough, the "clunker program" at the very beginning of his term was so damn off-putting to me that thinking about it still puts my teeth on edge.

Unless something (bizarre) happens that I don't anticipate, I plan to vote for Ron Paul.

 

Oh, and regarding the topic D)...I'm the one unsure.

I gave up long ago trying to 2nd guess the mentality of voters. If I can literally see you, I am very good on reading people. Otherwise, the average American and what they think and want is sometimes astounding.

Occasionally people, as a group, want what is logical and right and good...but it's come to be the exception, and not the rule.

 

Numbers like this people like to throw around a lot, but all it does is show the person has a very simplistic world view and is ignoring facts. Let's see how this really works. No job is just a base salary, in fact a good deal of said job isn't base salary, unemployment insurance, payroll taxes, health care costs, and a plethora of other things employers need to pay, especially since unlike Rick Perry's government, the federal government prefers to boast well paying jobs with decent benefits vs the nation's highest percent of minimum wage jobs.

The other problem, in some vain attempt for bipartisanship, the stimulus bill was half tax cuts. Tax cuts don't create shit for jobs when taxes are already low and there's not enough consumer demand to justify employers hiring new people.

To the question at hand, we're 14 months away from the election, it's still way too hard to know given what can happen in that time. In general, if Romney wins the nomination(which he near certainly will) it will be an actual competition, if anyone else somehow wins the GOP nomination, then yeah Obama doesn't even need to campaign.

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Cain! This is what Cain's tax plan would look like. I can't even actually post the picture due to how long the graph is:
http://i.imgur.com/roAfT.jpg
And this is just economic policy, we need graphs on social statements such as "If you're not a millionaire blame yourself" "I do not believe in evolution, fuck the science" "I do not believe homosexuality is a choice, show me the science" "I do not believe in global warming regardless of the amount of science behind it"

 

So many things wrong with your post, Sapphire, not sure where to start. Do you support the government creating jobs at a rate of $400K each? OK, you said half the stimulus was tax cuts, so OK, $200K, each. I wonder what the average pay for each of these jobs was, when you include benefits. I'll bet the average total pay packet didn't come to $100K. Anyways, I sure hope not. The point is, that money was wasted on a massive scale.

Second thing, the CBO says that the poor are paying less in taxes and the rich are paying more in taxes than paid 30 years ago. Why is that? Why do we keep hearing that the rich need to pay their fair share when they already pay more than their share.
http://www.cbo.gov/publications/collections/tax/2009/tax_liability_shares.pdf

Also, the total tax burden is rising higher and higher, as spending is rising so fast we will never be able to get enough revenue to cover all that spending.

http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/09/total-tax-burden-is-rising-to-highest-level-in-history/

Tax cuts will always create jobs, but not the way Obama does it. Let me keep more of my money and I may invest it in my company and create more jobs. The American people will always use money more effectively than the American government.

Oh, by the way, I loved the Cain graph. And yes, that is a good thing. Taxes on the poor might go up, but everybody has got to have some skin in the game. And if we lowered the taxes on the rich, along with lowering spending, then those rich guys would have more money to give to the poor guys, who would then have more money to give to the government.

 

This whole argument comes back to, the government can't do shit right. Let us, the American people, solve this problem, and get the government out of the way.

 

I'd be more interested in learning how many would like to see Obama re-elected.
I'm hoping he won't be re-elected, and that a great number of incumbents in both houses will also meet the same fate.

 

I want to see Obama re-elected, because I'm convinced that any Republican would do a much worse job than he would. I know this because of the horrible mess they made when they were in power, and nothing about the Republican Party has changed, except they have moved even farther to the right.

 

Looks like the Democrat/Left has created their own dictionary.

 

I think if he wants it bad enough IT WILL BE STOLEN AGAIN AND YES HE WILL GET BACK IN!!

 

WTF? Stolen? You're confusing Bush with Obama.

 

I will certainly never forget the fact that our entire economic nightmare that we are all living in right now is almost (exception nafta) the sole responsibility of the republican party. Starting with Reagans trickle down theory to gwbs asinine tax cuts, that is how we ended up here. The clowns being assembled for the gop nomination are a laughingstock and the people , both republican and democrat see this. So again I will hold my nose and vote for Obama because he will simply be the lesser of two evils. But I feel better days for us coming after the upcoming changes take hold.

 

For me, the Obama campaign was the first political movement that felt like a legitimate shift in the direction of the country. As the actual election drew closer though it became clear that alot of what was going on was BS...I remember specifically being shocked by the folks actually filling in alot of positions.

Now here we are four years later and its clear that the Obama administration in essence was simply putting a smiley face on the same old program. Is anyone else noticing the shear amount of assassinations being carried out? sure Osama probably wont be missed, but look at the brutal murder of Gadhafi or how about Anwar al-Awlaki and AMERICAN citizen. If Bush would have done all this there would have been international and domestic outrage since he was already hated and painted as an imperialist, but under Obama really its the SAME military/industrial forces carrying out these acts.

With all that said, its clear that the Obama program is actively successful from the perspective of the establishment, so to me its pretty obvious that his reelection is largely guaranteed given that he doesn't make any unexpected departures from the status quo.