Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

Poppycock,,

There is that which is spiritual, and that which is natural.

Paul said that it was necessary to convey spiritual things with spiritual words, or words led of the spirit. Long stories may or may not do the trick. Sometimes long stories can simply kill a meeting. But it depends on the ability of the speaker to stay with the spirit, as it turns.

Surely you can love those who are not your brethren, and in fact, Jesus tells us this very thing. "If you salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? Even the publicans do so."

Love is universal, but a proper church meeting must have a particular content, in addition to a spirit of love toward all. I'm not talking about formal, traditional Christianity. I'm talking about a simple, proper church meeting, along the lines of ICorinthians 14. The guideline is that everyone is encouraged to speak, to share something, and not just an individual standing at a pulpit giving a sermon. The meeting should be held in mutuality, with everyone participating, for the building up of all. The traditional way of "pulpit and pew", with "one man speaking" is not sufficient for the true building up of the Body of Christ, the Church.

 

There is nothing living but lives through the author of life. Animus animates animal.

Paul is a very deep fellow. By proper church meeting with a particular content, with the guidelines that everyone is encouraged to speak, do you mean such a forum as this. The only one going that has at least the attempt at asking for gods blessing, if in fact you do not believe it has been given?

All our encounters are holy.

 

There are, however, more than one type of "life" that is called "life". There is the human life, the bios, the psychological life, the psuche, and the life of God, or "zoe". Though some walk, they may not all be "living", in the spiritual sense.

http://mikeb302000.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/tombstones-in-their-eyes/

I'm not qualified to judge this forum. I appreciate it. I don't tend to analyze it. As to whether I would call this a "church meeting",,I don't know. More so, I would simply call it a "discussion board".

God is holy, meaning He is distinct, separate from all things. We also are holy in Him.

There is that which is holy, and that which is common.

 

But you can identify a proper church meeting?
Holy is not distinct from all things. Holy is a condition where all things agree or all things are consistent of themselves, that is whole. That you perceive yourself unholy, is the product of a split mind, seeing itself as two competing entities. That each are created in their own kind, is holy.

 

Arthur:

The bare-faced lie of the priests when phrased for opposition as this is.
Your writing on degrees is hypocrisy.

How separate? How distinct? How are you in him as separate?

Who? More priestly deceit. And not even the priests are zombies!

Unlike you, I am qualified to judge this thread.


OWB:

~LOL~ Which tree is the forbidden tree?

The tree of life is the tree of knowledge. Read Genesis again, and Arthur, you go read it too! : D

Nonsense. Injustice was almost more than Jesus could bear?! That could only come from a priest, a believer in "God" and the justice of "God". Jesus didn't want to die for us, it's part of why you don't know him. He practised mercy to the last. His sacrifice was only incidental to that practice. Christianity, the religion of pity, is self-condemning.

And you don't have to understand it.

 

Sorry, but I just gave you the definition of holy,,,

God is holy, distinct, separate from all things,,

God is not common.

This is why we have, in us, the desire to be distinct. The problem is that so many people try so many things to be "distinct", when it just makes them the same as so many others who are doing the same thing.

Like the hippie movement. Thinking they are "distinct",,"different",,they end up just being so much the same, just in a different context. Only God can make a true distinction.

Jesus didn't come here calling everyone "bro", with all sorts of "hand-slapping" and "fist-bumps",,

 

No apology necessary, I am giving the definition I am taught.

Created in the likeness and image, male and female and saw that they were good very good. Only god is good.

I don't know anyone, I repeat anyone, who has not heard of god in one way or another. You are being exclusionary, which is an ego device. It makes you, or us, better than someone else, or them. You try to preserve this position because of course you maintain your advantage which relieves you of getting down and dirty in the trenches. If you think i am a good old boy knee slapper, you are mistaken. The word of god i hear, cleaves the soul from the spirit.

 

This is what I call liberal hypocrisy, posing as an "egalitarian", to say that you are better than me, because you are less "exclusionary", less "concise", less "specific", less discerning, perhaps? You boast in your "generalness", because it is the liberal agenda to be less exclusionary and more general.

It's merely a political stance, and has nothing to do with God or His plan. It's more because you prefer to be seen in a certain way by others, for the sake of their approval.

It makes you a poseur, a "friend to all", kissing babies and hugging the underprivileged and the disenchanted, the downtrodden and the disadvantaged,,a real man of the world.

You go, girl,,

I have no idea what you are getting on here. My only sensation of who you are seems to indicate that you are young, and idealistic, and proud.

 

Our accusatory impressions do not give us any information about the world. What I suggest is true for you, I also recognize as true for me.

I am male, 54 years of age, retired from commercial enterprise after many successful engagements, although I have been fired. There is a community of real individuals around me who lean to me for support and I to them. I have three adult children who are functioning with great capacity. The reason we exist as individuals, is that we are companionable to one another.
God gives us our brothers just as he gives life to us.

My idealism was crushed long ago and has been replaced by confidence or trust. My thought is to remove the barriers that we have erected against the perception of love. God is love, as an extension of gods love, you are love. You are given this world to do with as you apply yourself. there are no prohibitions on how you apply yourself. Love is beyond what can be taught, but you can be what you are and allow others to be that which they are.

 

and yet,,you simply hide your accusations behind clever and pretentiously magnanimous diplomacy..accompanied with pompous but eloquent sounding phraseology, which only serves to mislead. Liberals always tend to consider themselves the next best thing to a full-on "savior of the world",,

I'm not really interested in your relative successes, or lack of. I'm only addressing your posturing and professions of faith. It just doesn't ring true to me. It sounds more to me like an adopted philosophy, rather than vital transactions with the I AM.

To refer to a biblical description,, "strange fire" ,,,

Sounds like you've got yourself sold on yourself, whatever anyone else thinks about you or your views.

Only thing I can say is "keep on keepin' on",,until life comes around and smacks you a good one,,then maybe you'll realize the need for a real-life Savior.

ciao, and arrivederci,,and sayonara,,,,basta,,seeya

 

Arthur:

Theology is a kind of playpen for cowards ( thinkers only by default ) who mistrust the intellect, who renounce their own authority in thought. Its adherents are sickly savants who can only be at home in a universe that has not just occurred, but been 'laid out'. A body of "prepared" evidence, where responsibility, the responsibility in creating, is actively denied.

That's where you have to lend a little, lest the universe itself has a lend of you! : D

Men are not equal, not before god, not even in death. thedope will not say it, but I am not he and I shall. He's a greater friend to the future than you. And though it may displease you to hear it; - than you in general! lol

*Dejavu simultaneously fist-bumping and hand-slapping the keyboardbaertudfn lgnkjdsbdsdg ehyrgyutkw dnfjrkbdmxmzfmn*

 

But, you know, I came up upon another problem. The church vs. organized religion. we will take into granted that we regard the "organized religion" problem as understood for what people are concerned to criticize throughout the secular world. However, the issue of "reasoned existence of God" is very distinctly offered up in the smaller less organized churches, the evangelists, the christian science monitor, faith healing and occult. Is it really successful for the proofs can only ultimately be revealed and hence organized by congregation and ultimately Judgment of the historically organized churches.

 

Deja,,

The intellect is a playpen for cowards (thinkers only by default) who misunderstand and distrust God,,who assume unwarranted authority in thought. It's adherents are sickly savants who can only be at home in a universe of their own imagination, a body of "prepared" evidence, where responsibility, the responsibility to join with God in His purpose is actively denied.

 

willedwill:

How small? Small enough to be personal? When I find individuals they are always just the size they are! Growth is amazing that way! : D Only under the glowing dome.

 

Arthur:

Ha! That's what we call having a stab at it! : D

Now, I'm off for a stab at a sabbatical, when I come back, if I find thedopes patience has been abused there'll be hell to pay. Out of your respective heavens, so be careful. You see, he's a close friend of mine, and while my pleasure in my friends is that they always fend for themselves in unfriendly conditions, I am not so "unwarranted" that I may not also enjoy exercising my judgement in assisting them. lol

We see no fight. That's why we fight better, and victory? But I'll leave you with that word while I'm away! It's a bit spoilt! Needs reflection upon its upbringing! Like you Arthur! : D

 

I guess I'm big. The unity of big and small.


I wish to beat this answer to the earlier spot. May you?
Trolled another site; got a picture of Proust, and now I'm supposed to get that picture here. Wait, I promise to send her here tomorrow.:2thumbsup:

 

I, however, see a fight, and in seeing, am not encumbered with the element of denial. I'll leave you with that word while I'm away. : D

 

willedwill:

If an all out edit is what you're after forget it. But you're not, so don't. Consider it official as of this posts posting. Wait, that sounds officious. Consider it done. That's even worse. Consider!


Arthur:

You mean you want to see a victory! That's healthy enough from the outside! : D

Are you going after the grail or are you off to avalon?

--out.

 

The fact is, christ calls for equanimity in our treatment of the world. There is no such thing as a lie. What you say reflects the processes that are occurring within yourself. You may recognize the truth of what you tell yourself by whether whether the things you say and what you do are consistent. Honesty is consistency.

When you see in another an obvious inconsistency between what he says and what he does, it is not because he is a liar. We speak from the abundance of our heart, always. What he says accurately describes the processes that are occurring inside him. The discrepancy that is occurring is that he himself had not happened upon the center of his own gravity, he is committed to finding it. There is good in the world for all of us and we must have it. The more disparate the act, the more desperate the seeking. Everything is love, or a call for it.

And I am not posting to my successes but to the suspicion that I am naive.
It might interest to know that I have an addictive personality and have been fiercely addicted, living life in and amongst the addicted.

I am sold on god, what he gives, is truly given.

I hope you come back soon, I enjoy your intellect, and accusation is simply a limit to appreciation.

 

Now, I shall mozie along to occupying Toronto.