While many say you can feel things while on salvia, i.e being pulled, tugged etc.. Others report being ripped apart, torn, shredded, having something crush them like a cog ( Does anyone know if PAIN is felt? )
The feelings I feel are much more like the being pulled, tugged, pushed. In a sense I feel like I'm being ripped apart, torn, strectched, pinned to the space but I'm usually not aware of my body when that's happening, it feels more like the salvia realm segments/fractalizes your being but for me it doesn't correspond to the body that way, it's different than you may be thinking.
fractals, love those images ... like your art. salvia dsiplaces the physical, I agree. i've been inside a tubular accordian-type structure. colors were vivid from deep browns to fucsia purples, also a figure of a poodle (fucsia coloured). salvia is definitly strange yet wonderful
No what i mean is some people said that entities RIPPED them apart, one guy said that they said " lets kill him" and they ripped him apart and he saw his insides That sounds like more than hard tugging, pulling or pushing. Its sounds horrific! not enlightening or spiritual in anyway
I can only speak on my own experiences, and what people have told me who I have sat and what I've read on the net. I'd say the way that person described his trip is uncommon. You may be surprised how much appreciation for your life and normal consciousness you may have after an experience like that, so just because the trip content can be morbid doesn't mean it's not enlightening. But examples like that is why I don't think meditation and psychedelics are interchangable, Seems like they both strive for the same end goal but they can take vastly different route of acheiving that goal.
in one experience "breaking through" on salvia...i did not feel pain during the peak of the trip. i had a goose-egg on my head and a scrape on my elbow when i came back to reality. shit got really weird...in a way i'm not up to typing out right now. it wasn't as simple as "hey let's kill him" but it might have been just as morbid. it was emotionally painful, but not physically.
