My First Savia trip using Quid Method(Level 4)

I honestly don't know where to start so much happened and during the trip i tried my best to hold on to my thinking part of my mind(the part that reasons,remembers, concludes...etc)during the trip my mind was split into many pieces i'll explain later.

Question:
If you have ever smoked salvia and taking it using the quid method mind telling me what it was like? I'm thinking of smoking it but i would like to know how smoking it compares to taking it using the quid method.

Tip:
DO NOT SMOKE SALVIA if its your first time, smoking it results in a trip that gets intense almost instantly mine started gradually which is why i was able to position myself and prepare my mind(once the trip starts your thoughts can easily manifest themselves physically so its not a good idea to be in a bad state or the trip will be bad)but even so there was a point when i thought i was about to die, i know for a fact if i smoked salvia first i would have seriously hurt myself. Also when your tripping and you are in an uncomfortable position or don't feel comfortable DO NOT resist, also try and make as little physical movement as possible, because once the trip starts time just isn't the same anymore.I felt uncomfortable because there were still some leaves in my mouth so i tried to spit them out and all of a sudden i was chocking on leaves so tried to remove the leaves with my hand, at this point the mind fuck momentary came to a rest but the time fuck didn't so what felt like my removing leaves from my mouth with my hands for a few seconds was actually me throwing leaves all over the room for a few minutes, i could tell because everytime i few seconds went by(well they felt like a few seconds to me)i would see 3 - 5 new stains on the wall and would vaguely remember throwing leaves there).Lastly, they say smoking salvia is better than quid method, bullshit if you ask me. I've read alot of trip reports, enough to conclude that smoking it results in a short trip(15 minutes at most)mine lasted for over 2 hours(felt a lot longer though but in accordance to my phone lasted about 2 hours 30 minutes)if you do the quid method right you will have a great trip.


Method:
I used dry salvia leaves, 1/3 of 28g(to high to do the maths)to be exact, soaked them in water for a minute before i started chewing, however before all that i brushed my teeth thoroughly and rinsed with mouthwash....i'm still high(my trip report and the method is still reliable cause for some reason i don't know much about this current world but i know much about what i just experienced i have a good feeling once the high ends i'll forget almost everything which is why i'm making this post now) so i don't know what its called lol but its the one that is usually recommended just google salvia quid method.After the dry leaves where soaked for one minute i squeezed all the water then started chewing on them, while watching something online. Everynow and then i would put the mush of salvia leaves under my tongue and in my cheeks, my mouth was completely full btw.

Mind fuck:
5 minutes after i started chewing them i forgot why i was chewing leaves and there was no bitter taste at all then when i looked around my room i had a good feeling i was tripping so i turned my laptop off and well...this is where things got weird. Time kind of didn't exist anymore which was kinda scary at first but it was like i was 3 cause like everything was fun. i have always wondered what people who had NDEs or OBEs meant by "there was no time". The following things happened at once, there was no time:
I looked at my phone to check the time and realized it had only been about 10 minutes since chewing the leaves then i found controlling my body very hard and completely forgot why i was chewing leaves, but i knew i had to keep chewing them for at least 30 minutes so i did, during which i thought and did some crazy things(but not gonna go into details but i didn't do anything too crazy)

The next time i check the time its only been about 25 minutes since chewing but the mind fuck was too much so i just started spitting out all the leaves, then sat at my bed wondering what was going on.

I was desperately trying to keep hold of my thoughts and my consciousness anytime i would receive stimulus of an kind it would momentarily take me to a world devoted to that stimulus, its hard to explain but i'll try to later. I was very amazed by the absence of time and my altered state of consciousness so ran a few tests, i tried to perform simple tasks like thinking a specific thought or moving my hand and found that everything happened at once...okay probably not making sense its really hard to explain.eventually i couldn't hold on anymore and at this point my mind had split into many pieces, it was like all the neurons in my brain where no longer processing information together so i got to experience things from each of their perspective, there was no longer just one consciousness person, i was split into many individuals that where all part of me.


Trip:
At this point i was still a bit mind fucked but not as much as i was earlier but time still wasn't quite there. I used this moment of sanity to turn the lights off and put on my head phones and listen to some music....oh forgot to mention before any of that happened i almost freaked out because it was like i was choking on leaves so i just started trying to take all the leaves out of my mouth and made a terrible mess but physically speaking thats the worst that happened.As soon as the music started and i closed my eyes i went to another reality and i can't really explain what i saw you'd think i was crazy and i listened to about 75 and each took my to another reality so this post would be too long if i explained all of them but i can tell you what each was like. Each of the realities related to the song, to be specific i was listening to songs by zero project - [http://www.zero-project.gr/] - and during the whole trip everything made sense, like my whole life all the experiences i've ever had...etc made sense i knew everything. As for my body i was barely aware of it, when a song would end and there was no sound i opened my eyes and during that time was vaguely aware of my surroundings and that i was tripping, i was worried that i was totally freaking out cause i had heard of reports of people tripping who thought they where still but trashed the whole room but then as soon as another song would start this current reality no longer mattered and i would quickly drift to another one, i drifted to so many i think there are an infinite amount of realities, like everything has already happened and consciousness just allows you to pick which reality you want to experience.The closed eye visuals took me to another reality, but the opened eyed visuals allowed me to think, anytime i really wanted to think and remember where i was i would open my eyes. In overall the trip was amazing, i was worried that i had totally trashed my room cause i left this current reality so many times but to my surprise i was in my same spot all along, i didn't move at all, guess you don't need a sitter if your doing salvia(you probably do if your smoking it).

Please note this trip report doesn't even cover a percent of what i experienced, i honestly don't think its possible to explain all of it in words, try the quid method it works like a charm.

 

Hmmm, I will definitely have to try this "quid" method of which you speak. Do you know if it works with the extract?

 

Of course it works with the extract! Its just going to get everywhere in your teeth and stuff, which will be disgusting to say the least.

Go for it must, and tell us what its like.


Osake, that was an awesome trip report. You wrote it well (except for some grammar and wording errors) in the fact that I felt like I understood what happened to you. Wonderful first post. I hope you continue to post, this is a fun forum because of people like you! I really want to hear one of your TRs for smoking it!

 

I can safely say I've had much more disgusting things in my mouth. :biker:

 

Lol, I don't think there are a whole lots of things more disgusting than grainy salvia... I just realized I was thinking about kratom... Ew. Yeah, it wont be that bad then.

Make sure to post a TR when you do try it.

 

Good Report OP!

I've been thinking about a Salvia quid extract too. They have pouches for tobacco chew, I imagine something like that could be put together for a Salvia extract quid.

 

That is a good idea. But how would one make something like this that isn't commercial? Hmmm, ideas? Salvia pouches, that would sell great. It could be a pouch for the mouth that could also be torn open and made into two smoking doses! I will go into business selling these and make millions!!! I wish... Who would buy a product like this instead of a gram of powder in a ziplock?

 

I just had me second trip using the quid method a few hours ago and well now i'm confused and have some more questions. Initially speaking my reason for using salvia was to get high and the first time i used it was a success(or at least i thought it was)at the start of my second trip i started to remember more of my first trip and realized i was shitting myself when the time distortion hit me, i felt like i had gone crazy and would remain in a state of retardation forever, no matter how much i tried to think to myself that i was tripping and that it would all be over after an hour or two it didn't work as the concept of time no longer made sense. I don't have the time to go into details as i have to go to a trip(a real life education trip). At the start of the trip my mind was as it was on my first trip but this time i no longer perceived it as me going crazy, it was like the other version of my mind was simply one out of many components of myself that had to get shutdown in order for my to perceive other dimensions. I say that because unlike my first time i became aware of parts of myself getting shutdown. What i also noticed was not all my memories where stored soon after i had experienced something during the trip sometimes it was not memorized and i had a strong feeling that there was a being guiding me through this whole experience and it was helping grow spiritually be not letting me remember all aspects of the trip. I could feel its presence yet could not see it(maybe because i took a lower dose of salvia this time)but what came to mind was "not all memories are required in order for growth to occur, some memories inhibit growth, just like cells in the body have to die in or people in society have to die in order for growth to occur some memories have to be forgotten in order for spiritual growth to occur". When i think about it, it makes sense,if i had remembered just how scared i was of the time distortion during my first trip i would not have tried salvia again.My first trip was really good(more intense than my second)but nothing was learned and very little was remembered. In my second trip much was remembered and much was learned. My second trip has changed me, firstly i no longer regard salvia as something you take just to get high in fact i consider myself very lucky that my first trip was in overall good considering the fact my reason for taking salvia back when was mainly to get high(then again it might not have been so good maybe there is some aspects of it that have remained forgotten). I am a man of science and have very little belief in the after life and other dimensions but after my second trip i'm now starting to ponder the question, do other planes of reality exist or are these other realities perceived just a byproduct of the brain putting itself back to normal? because in my second trip since i remembered more, i remembered feeling as if i had another life in these other realities like this was not my first time being there. Do any of my experiences correspond with any of your salvia experiences? Also i have a theory on why salvia is still legal in many counties. With salvia having a bad trip is pretty easy if your mind is not prepared, most people that cause psychedelic related problems(driving while high...etc)use psychedelics just for the high, so when they come across a psychedelic like salvia and have a bad trip(because their minds were not welled prepared and only wanted to get high)it puts them off using salvia and can actually put them off using psychedelics entirely. The first time i tried lsa(Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds)the trip was so bad that i contemplated never using psychedelics again.

 

I tried the quid method a few weeks ago, and failed to get any effects at all. I did exactly the same as you did, rolled the leaves into a tight ball and chewed for maybe 20 minutes. All I got was a mouthfull of disgusting bitter tasting leaves and a very light stoned feeling that could have been placebo. I tried it a few times, with the same result. Anyone have any ideas about what might have gone wrong? Maybe I just got some ''dud'' leaves?
It does seem a much more attractive method of taking salvia than smoking, if I could only get it to work!

 

Yah Salvia can disengrate your sense of self and identity very thoroughly. I agree with your reasoning as to why Salvia is still legal, it's just too dissonant an experience for many people to use more than a couple times and even for those who appreciates the trip like myself, I use it very sparingly and even with proper preparation, I find it a difficult trip to go back to.

 

Thanks for sharing! Sounds like a salvia trip all right :sunny:

This method interests me...but I cannot fathom tripping on Salvia for that long! ..my god! haha

 

how many grams of leaves did you use? and i agree maybe you did get some dud leaves try smoking the leaves to see if they actually work then try the quid method again with more leaves.

 

I agree as well, for me, salvia is a good trip to experience once in awhile. But like right after its over, I feel like I dont wanna use it again for a long time, it can be almost unpleasant if youre unprepared

 

I'm not sure how many grams it was, but it was the most I could comfortably chew. Anymore would have been difficult.
I also had problems with the quid disintegrating somewhat while i chewed, ending up with a mouthful of shredded leaves.
To make the quid I just rolled a bunch of leaves into as tight a ball as possible, maybe I left something out?

 

holy crap you make it sound horrific!

Thoughts become what you see? Others say their thoughts dont become things ( anyone care to shed light on that one? )

 

Most of the legal drugs are pretty shit, or dangerous. I didn't get anything from the HBW that I bought, it was pretty fuckin' useless. Salvia is crazy as shit but I would definitely recommend any of the tryptamines.. much less of a mindfuck(at least with the lower doses), much more enlightening, and much more enjoyable.

 

sorry didn't explain that properly your thoughts don't necessarily become things but they have great influence on your trip,so the thought of you feeling stuck for example could manifest itself in you morphing into an inanimate object or merging with what ever it is you are tripping on.