Any way to differentiate LSD vs 2ce?

I've tripped 5 times now on 3 different batches. This liquid is the 3rd batch and the only LSD that ive experienced with negative side effects on two separate occasions. Of course I won't really know until I do it again in a few weeks, probably taking 2 drops this time, in a group, with special consideration to mood and setting. In the meantime I have friends whom are interested in trying it so I'm curious as to how my stuff will affect them.

 

^^^you had negative effects with just one drop, the first time you tried it?

the batch of L i have now gave me significant jaw clenching and muscle tension on two hits, but nearly none on just one.

 

well i don't agree that an LSD trip wears off in 5 hours or less.

i'm not from jersey.

what do you mean, you know who i am? i don't remember stayloose.

seems like you're saying that the shivas and so on are definitely legit...but they don't allow sleep after just 5 hours. did they for you?

doesn't anyone else find that claim to be odd?!

 

To be sure, there's lots making LSD.

But there ain't no bathtub LSD.

People who want to cut corners and do quick and dirty synths make meth. Or a host of other things. But not psychedelics, because there's a very high level of legal danger, and a verrrrrry low profit margin. If you make crystal meth, you can BANK, if you like LSD, you can enlighten teenagers. Not to mention, if you try to make LSD like meth, you'll fucking drop dead, you won't even notice the amounts of precursers you need to inhale to die painfully.

So, not multi-million dollar labs, but not morons, either. You can put and LSD lab in a truck (as we know from poor pickard) but not like you put a meth lab in a truck.

As for needlepoint, yeah, it's supposed to be the most pure crystals that, allegedly, crystalize in a very sharp, needly structure. But no...... These people have no idea. Placebo can give a full on acid trip that's indistinguishable from the real thing, from blank paper. Having an opinion of the "vibes" of your acid, or how "clean" it is, will have lots to do with what you feel.

Also, LSD in 5 hours? nooooooo.... I mean, 5 hours and I'm often close to visual-free.... but it's not over yet, at all.

 

The one drop sample I took I was tense but it was manageable, with 3 hits it was significant.

Also when I trip, most effects are gone by hour 12 and I cant sleep for at least 4 additional hours for some reason, without meds of course.

 

nope.

placebo can maybe feel similar to the effects of a weak dose, but not a full on acid trip. a full on acid trip leaves no question to whether or not you're tripping

 

I was speaking of people who have never taken LSD.

I don't have a source, been a long time. I think it was on erowid, but it was a short article I was linked a loooong time ago, in an online discussion where I had been downplaying placebo.

We're not talking about massive doses amounts or effects, but in essence, if someone has a clear idea of what LSD does, and takes a fake dose, and later takes a real dose, they can remain convinced that the first was real, and even argue this point when told that they were in the control group.

 

I never said that people of inferior intelligence are producing bathub LSD, I said that I've known kids to clean it up in hotel rooms. These days I only get LSD from the Czech source. With the dollar exchange there is tremendous profit, and I've never handled LSD up here for more than $5 per hit, and that was only once to compensate for gas. On average I've seen it go through my own hands at $3-$4 and the highest amount I've accepted for a sheet was $400. I however do not *sell* LSD, I've never made a dime off of handling it (quite the contrary, I've even been robbed twice), I make my living like your average person since my children were born, but the people with whom I am aquainted do make their living on it. They are not rolling in cash, but they are not exactly starving, and I have to say that to assume there is little profit margin is somewhat unfair, as this may be your experience Roor but it is definitely not mine.

You see, to us, psychedelic drugs are the closest thing we have to religion. Enlightening teenagers is a funny way to put it, if thats how you see it, but we take the stuff very seriously. This is just a difference of opinion I guess, I'm not saying that the way you perceive the drug is wrong or offensive, I'm just clarifying my reasons for involving myself in it's distribution, which carries a very heavy risk. I am very cautious about it and it gives me a great pleasure to be able to hand my close friends a few sheets for sometimes half of what they pay otherwise.

And pork, look I'm not trying to come at you personally, I know who you are and you know very well who I am, shoot me a PM about it. I did not say that LSD should wear off in 5 hours, I said that a person is able to fall asleep, should the person so desire to, at around the 5 to 6 hour mark on LSD of high quality. That you chose the lower number is of course to be expected, that you quoted me with "real LSD", something I did not say at all, is a bit disappointing. I do not make the point that people are in general taking "fake" acid and getting the wrong impression, I'm making a point that there is acid which is not of high quality and people who take it can become confused, wondering if they had even taken acid at all. When you eat 3 or 4 blotter papers and find yourself lying down 8 hours later and when you close your eyes feel like you are supercharged as if you were coming down from meth, this is a sign that something has gone wrong, either during the purification, or during storage, or when dissolved &c. Good, clean LSD should be a very smooth ride all the way through. It is stimulating, but it is not stimulating to the point that your teeth are grinding and chattering and you feel like you've been beaten up the next day, or like I said when hours have gone by and you feel like relaxing, you don't end up staring wide eyed at the wall with your head buzzing like a synthesizer with all its oscillators filtered and phased and LFO'd to the max until the sun comes up. I've had blotter that 6 hits sent me spiralling out of control, totally disoriented and feeling like I was being electrocuted, and acid that 8 hits sent me meditating in a warm, euphoric state of uniterupted bliss. This is not something so basic as set and setting, I'd taken both batches multiple times, each time with the same type of physical effects. As I mentioned before, my younger brother accidentally took the entire liquid remnants of my *for a few rainy days* jar, having never taken any psychedelic drug before in his life, and was totally baseline within 10 hours. Had that been dirty or something other than the Czech acid, I probably would have had to have taken him to the hospital, or at the very least tie him to the fucking bar with a rag in his mouth stuffed in a closet.

 

^^^^^^^^^winning