Occupy Wall Street Movement Spreads Across the World!

Miami had a good turnout today - and while I was there til 4 pm it was peaceful. We gathered at the Torch of Friendship on Biscayne Blvd after 1 pm and it got quite crowded by 3 pm when they walked en masse to the Government Center.

I took pics, of signs mostly. Call it Signs of the Time - Occupy Miami

 

Walking to Gov't Center


Gathering at Gov't Center

 

'Tis the call of the wild howling from within. Most people are just too indoctrinated to recognize it or for it to even occur to them as a possible explaination. We are Nature, and We have been boxed up. Nature Naturally resists. We have resisted Nature, that is, resisted ourselves, for far too long.

DO NOT RESIST THE CALL OF THE PRIMAL!
:sunny:

 

I find it to be a pointless annoyance

 

Whew! What an active day the 15th of October was, and it continues into the night with Occupy Minneapolis and Occupy Chicago being raided early this morning...

 

Well, I am sorry to say that the protesters are being used as useful idiots. These are not grassroots protests -- nor are any large-scale protests these days -- and the protesters by and large are ignorant of real issues, which goes way beyond Wall Street, capitalism and corporate greed. These protests are well-funded and well-orchestrated, and the whole thing reeks of some controlled opposition psyop. I am not buying it, and I will make it clear that these protesters DON'T have my support, because I feel they're playing into the hands of the same powerful interests they believe they're railing against. If anything, this is the perfect example of how the mob can be manipulated into getting behind an agenda they might not otherwise approve of if they understood what and who was really behind it.

 

the tv stations are taking great pleasure in putting the worst spokespersons in front of the camera and making the entire thing look dumbish......they are putting crazy old people and ill spoken young people that know shit about anything and pretending they are the demographic...

you gotta admit..there is a lot of nuts there according to the news

 

Apparently, Occupy Phoenix is undergoing a raid right now. Approximately 35 arrests.

 

It seems that Occupy Sacramento is being raided by police now also.

This is the scene there. 17 protesters on the corner of the park after 12 'clock closing, sitting on the ground, surrounded by police officers in riot gear, 40 police vehicles including 2 paddy wagons and 2 CSI cars. All were arrested, the last being a male with Cerebral Palsy, in a wheel chair. The live feed witnessed this with 4,300 viewers.

 

Well, it could simply be that those types of people make up the majority of the protesters. But it's also the job of the media -- which, like all things, operates according to Hegelian principles -- to simultaneously discredit and give credence to issues presented, and certain media outlets, depending on their role in the controlled left-right spectrum, will cover things with more or less of a slant in any given direction.

 

About 200 of us left this morning and I think se returning today... Police now seem
To be letting us in and out bit that might change... Only minor altercations so far... Police friendly in general... Lol, right now we trying to have a general assembly and the bells of St pauls keep
Peeling so we get up and dance for a bit, then on with the assembly... Very peaceful and love all around positive
Vibes

 

@MuchaGanja: I think about 99% of the people dont understand our monetary system at all. None of them could give a valid definition of what money is. Even 75% of all people working in banks dont understand it neither.

@Orison: in 2003 we had demonstrations with up to 60000 people in the small city of Berne, Switzerland where I was at the time.
That didnt stop them from attacking Iraq.

With the worldwide capitalism and greed these days it will take more than a french revolution to get rid of them and you know how many deaths and even wars/ mass executions we had during the french revolution already...

 

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im still a little confused about this.in one the pictures is a guy holding a sign saying "forgive student loans".how does a student loan have anything to do with the government and stuff?dude took out a loan for a career that apparently doesnt make him much money or he was too dumb to finish school.

from what im reading on other sites is that these protests havent defined what exactly are they protesting.

maybe before more assemblies are made they should think about defining what it is they are after?

 

This makes it easy to discredit the movement. There's an abundance of anger at the system these days... some forms more supportable than others. I get the sense that there are those who are involved who are expecting some sort of handout or government forced redistribution which to me is a bit like asking the fox to guard the chicken coop. Governments are a central part of the problem in no small part because they are indistinguishable from the corporations whose greed is being protested.

People would do well to think back to what has arguably precipitated the economic situation we're currently in- that being the collapse of the housing bubble- which was deliberately created through banking and investment collusion by pushing subprime mortgages onto bad credit risks with zero screening for creditworthiness and the notes swiftly packaged as the toxic derivatives- mortgage backed securities whose meteoric rise in value was fueled by the rapid pace of real estate sales but simple math based on the inevitability of interest rate increased virtually guaranteed a high rate of foreclosure and one might wonder:

"Why didn't the government stop this?"

Well- there were those who attempted to look into these toxic derivatives but were called off by bank and Wall Street connected congresspeople but Alan Greenspan himself.

Source

Googling the names "Brooksley Born" and "Alan Greenspan" together will deliver a wealth of material suggesting that the United States regulatory system forcibly called off any attempts to look into the scheme that may have otherwise avoided the whole mess.

As far as I'm concerned they didn't just let it happen- they encouraged it... they aided and abetted it as a co-conspirator.

The wealth of evidence that government is part of the problem highlights the short-sightedness of some demands that the government do something- to me expecting any meaningful remedy from any current government entity without first gutting it is a little like handing a daycare license to Casey Anthony.

 

Or, dude took out a student loan, finished school with flying colors and in this tanked economy (caused by the banks and the gov't that stole our money and 'forgave' the banks' blunders) the guy has no chance of getting a job. So now he is unemployed and will be for a while but has thousands of dollars in debt. If they can bail out the richest 1% who give themselves bonuses, they can bail out the students.

My daughter worked in Miami-Dade Public Schools for years. She got her bachelors and became a teacher. She was laid off two years ago and has been looking everywhere for a job. FL is more than 9% unemployment BTW. Her house is foreclosed and she has all those student loans to pay off.

Yeah, I am pissed that they bailed out the banks, who still went thru with the foreclosures on worthless property. Why didn't they give the money to mortgage payers - the banks woulda got the money but the mortgage payers wouldn't be in foreclosure.

 

Update:
Posted on Saturday, 10.15.11

Downtown Miami
More than 1,000 join ‘Occupy Miami’ demonstration

Protesters marched to the Miami-Dade government center on Saturday and began to pitch tents.

By Jon Silman
jsilman@MiamiHerald.com

Protests against big business and income inequality moved from New York’s financial district to downtown Miami on Saturday, as the Occupy Wall Street movement began to spread across the nation and world.

More than 1,000 people showed up for Miami’s 1:30 p.m. rally, according to a police estimate. Around 3 p.m., most of the demonstrators marched from their permitted protest site in Bayfront Park to the plaza in front of the Miami-Dade County Government Center.

By late evening, 100 people remained, along with more than a dozen tents and supplies.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/15/2455595/more-than-1000-join-occupy-miami.html#ixzz1awLOpyvu

Gathering at the Gov't Center October - 15, 2011 4pm

 

how does that affect me?how can i stand next to that guy and support him cuz he made the mistake of taking out a loan when he KNEW the economy was in the dumps?this didnt happen over night,its taken quite a few years for it to get this bad.

i can understand wanting wall street out of politics and giving control of the government back to the people.i can understand being pissed at banks for taking bailouts cuz they were going because they loaned out money that they shouldnt have.they should have been allowed to fold.if my bussines fails do i get a bail out?no and niether should the banks or the auto industry.

but i cant understand or support those that got themselves in debt by taking out loans that they KNEW they couldnt afford.

 

I can understand the problem that Shale's Daughter is in. He said she took loans, worked, got laid off, and has been unemployed for 2 years. That means she probably took out the loans when the economy was good. Be reasonable in your arguments, man.

That said, we the American people are not on the hook for Shale's daughter and all the other debtors that can't pay their bills. She should call the bank and ask what they can do to delay payments, but not forgive them. Shale, good luck to you and your daughter. I know she is not at fault for her situation. Pelosi, Reid and Obama are mostly at fault along with Bush, Dodd, Frank, Durbin and some of the other Polies in Washington. But, we the American people are not at fault, either, and we shouldn't be given the bill. Sorry.