Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinations of children without consent

Girls have died after taking the vaccine. The government has no fucking right to force something on kids that the parents don't want. That's the difference between freedom and fascism.

What Meilai said is 100% on the money.

 

I agree 1000000000000%!!

 

Because of the fact that we're discussing mandatory vaccinations as opposed to optional vaccinations.

There are certain vaccinations that children are required to get before entering school. These vaccinations prevent diseases that reached epidemic level at one time. I agree with you on the anti-vaccination sentiment in these cases. HPV is a different story.

HPV is relatively harmless in most cases. Sometimes, when left untreated, it can lead to cervical cancer. This is not a reason to force mandatory vaccinations. Parents have the option to vaccinate their children and it should be left at that.

This is obviously all about profit and not disease prevention.

 

That's not the premise of this thread. Not the opening post.

I agree that kids should be allowed to make the choice to take a vaccination against an STD which could cause cancer without parental consent. We also allow children to obtain condoms and have abortions without parental consent.

These kinds of issues involving health shouldn't be banned against someones wishes, even if they're younger than 18.

Mandatory injections of HPV vaccine to go to school, I don't necessarily endorse. Otherwise I think I agree with you.

 

Guys.....

Guardasil being presented to kids is awful, you SHOULD have to be 18, and it would make a lot more sense to throw condoms at them for the time being. It's dangerous shit, and no school nurse or someone like that should be even offering it to kids, much less bullying them into getting it.

BUT: it's NOT mandatory, the OP and OP's source are both being dishonest, as you can see if you read past the dripping paranoia in OP's article (but watch out for viruses)

Also, to the above post: condoms can NOT hurt you, they don't involve injection into your body. Abortions have more potential to cause damage, but they're still well known and understood.... Maybe I live under a rock but I have never heard of guardasil-like reactions to an abortion..... Pretty sure they jab around with a vaccum cleaner Condoms are preventive, but harmless, and abortions are in response to an already existing pregnancy. The vaccines have already become notorious for being shoved on kids in schools and other similar settings, to the point of emotional abuse, plain bullying, both kids and their parents, and I think there have been cases where the parents really where ignored, despite the legal requirements for their consent. These are preventive vaccines that ALSO have a potential to hurt you-it's like if condoms had a small chance of actually giving two healthy people HIV-of course it would be immoral to let kids have them without parental consent. However, they DON'T have pre-infected condoms, and DO have people that drop dead after these vaccines.

I mean, I could be wrong, I think 12 is under the fucking age of consent, even in cali..... I don't see a reason to be offering anonymous vaccines with the potential to cause death to children who are not even fucking teenagers, who may still be starting or, sometimes, have not even fucking hit puberty. They might not even understand the disease this is supposed to prevent... and we don't know what will happen to all these kids suckered into young pointless vaccination when they're older.

 

What would be reasonable collective self defence? It would have to be effective.

 

Yi Chuan Xue Bao. 2004 Jul;31(7):647-60.

Systematically experimental investigation on carcinogenesis or tumorigenicity of VERO cell lines of different karyotypes in nude mice in vivo used for viral vaccine manufacture.
Zhang DL, Ji L, Li LJ, Huang GS.

School of Public Health, Peking University Health Science Center, Beijing 100083, China. delizhang@bjmu.edu.cn

Abstract
Many cell lines used for vaccine production have a potentially strong tumorigenic character. Some of those routinely used need to be checked at different passage numbers for this characteristic. Using HeLa cell cultures as positive controls, and primary canine kidney cell (CKC) or feline kidney cell (FKC) cultures purified in vitro on passage three as negative controls, the tumorigenicity of VERO cell sublines was tested in 219 nude mice. The master cell stocks (MCS) and working cell banks (WCB) of eight strains of VERO African green monkey kidney cell (AGMKC) line used for canine, feline and mink vaccine preparation were established in China. The hypo-tetra-ploid JA or hyper-diploid KA strain of VERO line was highly tumorigenic. These data showed a variable chromosome karyotype of VERO line, and contraindicated the use of JA or KA strain of VERO line for the preparation of attenuated viral vaccines. JA or KA strain of VERO line could be a substitute for HeLa line as a positive-control malignant tumor (MT) cell model. The non-carcinogenic YB, JC, M and JB strains of VERO line were therefore selected for the preparation of modified live rabies viral vaccine in place of BHK-21. The cell sub-lines are comparatively stable in terms of their heritable characters, and show little significant changes between passages. In summary, we have found that: 1) the tumorigenicity of cell line is different among different-karyotypic cells; 2) it is the genetic characteristics of chromosomes of cell lines that determines their tumorigenicity, but with species-specific carcinogenicity; 3) the chromosome number variation of cell lines has positive relationship with their carcinogenesis; 4) highly variable strains of tumor cell line can be selected quickly and successfully in nude mice by alternate cultivation in vitro and in vivo. Malignant rhabdoid tumor (MRT) was evolved in nude mice inoculated with violently variable HeLa or VERO cells. The importance of assessing the tumorigenicity in cell sublines used for vaccine production is emphasised.

PMID: 15473315 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15473315

 

Plus, this really is a law suit waiting to happen. A vaccine that has been known to lead to horrible side effects administered to children who are not old enough to make their own decisions is not going to leave parents very happy.

Maybe a 16 year old can make an informed decision about their health, but definitely not a 12 year old.

 

so it bigings. this is very serious and scary i hope someone puts a stop to it.

 

so it begins. this is very serious and scary i hope someone puts a stop to it.