Why is marijuana still not legal in Canada ?

Around 2003 it seems a wave was hittting the media and government that marijuana was going to be legal soon. Than some strange phenomena no one talked about it any more . Now 8 years after that we are going back in time not progressing.

What is going on?
From wikipedia

And what is up with the media bias now , they where not so much like this before.



Full of myth and media bias

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Why are they not asking why is tobacco and alcohol legal and socially acceptable but not marijuana .

 

the mob doesn't want us to enjoy ourselves in effortless ways so they make it hard to get!!!!

 

Pharmaceutical companies - because if weed is legal many pain relievers, anxiety meds, sleep meds would be useless compared to weed which has less side effects and can't kill you because you can't O.D. You can grow weed with out the help of a Pharm Company, if was legal you could grow it in your yard with little effort. Big Pharma does not want that because it is money out of their pockets. Lots of money, so they would rather pay off the politicians to keep it illegal as it is a smaller financial impact than the alternative.

The majority of the public still see Marijuana as a drug. Once it gets that stigma attached to it, the uneducated will always see it as a destructive mind destroying evil substance ruining lives of our innocent children... But booze is fine right...

It is unclear how it would effect Canada U.S foreign policies, especially boarder control. concerns have been expressed by others that Canada’s proposed decriminalization of marijuana would cause congestion at the borders. As a result of perceptions that marijuana would be more easily obtained in Canada, U.S. customs officials might increase their efforts to prevent drug trafficking, thereby creating delays at the border that would affect both personal travel and commercial trade.

Canada would further affect Canada-U.S. diplomatic relations already strained by differing views of the war in Iraq, refugee rules, trade matters and environmental policy.

 

Not only is it still not legal, despite certain empty promises, but it's about to get a whole hell of a lot more illegal...

 

The media is way more bias now more so than before.Also the government for some reason is way more anti- marijuana now for some reason.

Where are the activist like before?

 

It's no big mystery. Our Prime Minister is an extremely right winged idiot fundamentalist christian dictator.

Most of them don't like cannabis...

 

It was on it's way to decriminilization, harper became prime minister in '06, and wants to move in the opposite direction.

Their crime bill and revamping of the Medical Marijuana Access Regulations, will result in court battles that will go to the supreme court.

If he has had the chance to stack the court with his cronies by then... don't expect anything good to come of it all...

 

But they sure like booze !!!


It does not matter what the government wants or who is in power , if the media goes back to how they where before and more activist like you get with abortion ,gun laws ,gay rights or any where close to anti globalization than yes marijuana will have a chance at becoming legal.

It will not be legal if only less than 2,000 people show up at a rally and the media is becoming more bias .

 

Actually, yes it does. Which is why weed was on it's way to deregulation with the previous (liberal) government, and why the current government (conservatives) are reversing that and making the criminal penalties harsher.

 

No , thanks to the Superior Court of Justice it had nothing to do with the government. It got started with Court that did not want to put guy in jail it than gone to the Superior Court :dizzy2:it sent shock waves in the media and government from around 2003 to 2005 ( by no choise they had to vote on Canada marijuana laws) than the liberal sponsorship scandal where marijuana was not the talk any more in government but what is going to happen to the goverment.The media and government forgot all the talk about marijuana as the liberal sponsorship scandal and the elections was more sensational.

Now 8 years in the future the media is going back to the 90's drug propaganda.


Where around 2003 to 2005 smoking pot was becoming more acceptable to now it is becoming more a taboo .

Also it does not help around 2005 and 2006 there was wave of gangs ,guns and hard drugs hitting Toronto and the GTA area the media made it very sensational and they past tough laws and put more cops on the street .The media became more so that crime is out of control we need more cops and tough laws .And what happen to the media it is a taboo now and the media become more conservative.

To there is other judge or major protest with lots and lots of activist it is known fact the media will be very anti- marijuana .

Only the green party and NDP party has talk about legalization of marijuana .


Read up on the 2007 Ontario Court of Justice.

The Ontario Court of Justice held in R. v. Long that the prohibition in the Controlled Drugs and Substance Act against the possession of marijuana were unconstitutional .

 

You had best go back and do some more thinking on this one.

Under the liberal government, the laws were relaxing and becoming more and more in the favour of decrimilization. This has been a steady improvement over years because of people (like me) fighting for it to happen.

The current government, who is going to stack the supreme court in their favour before these issues hit it, has been systematically working against it.

Just to be clear here... I am one of the people who stood up and faced down the cops and the government over the issue of weed, not in a mob hiding behind hundreds of others, or cowering at home hiding in their bathroom smoking so their mommy doesnt catch them...

I stood up by myself in a public park and I directly challenged the cops to arrest while I smoked fat joints talking to a reporter about these issues. From that point on in this area, not a single person was bothered by the cops AT ALL in regards to weed until the new laws were brought back in.

So please... Don't sit there and tell me that the government of the day has nothing to do with it when the current government is in the process of increasing the penalties for growing and doing their best to destroy the medical marijuana movement in this country.

 

If smonking pot becomes more acceptable like from 2003 to 2005 or more so the government will not have a choise but legalization of marijuana .

Many states in US where the liberal are conservatives to Canada standard and conservatives are like fassist to Canada standard!! There is talk on legalization of marijuana in some of the states .

 

What do you base this on?

I base what I said on the facts.

 

The law wasn't it? The law had to be judged for ineffectivity to the heart. But the heart makes the law unchangeable so us slow-pokes can Catch-up. Anyway, i will come if you show me how useful I can be.

 

pop culture that shapes culture and norms .

Over the past 100 years in the US there has been opposing forces.

- rights to black people civil rights.
- females right to vote
- females right to work
- common law living and divorce
- gay rights
- abortion
- same sex marriage
- right for female to dress like guy and the 60's and 70's that change way people dress and gender dressing.
- sex revolution

None of these things came from leader in power but mass protests.

The leaders in power have always been very slow at change.

When Asains come to Canada or the US most of them rebel and especially the second generation to mom and dad.

In the middle east the rights to vote ,rights for females ,the rights for dictators to step down. Unless you live in a cave with no media you would not hear of those masive protests

In other words no progress in history came by leaders but change by the people.The leaders do not like change they do not represent the people they represent wall street not the people.


Even cult leaders come with good plan more radical than the people but get corrupted when in power like the USSR ,Cuba ,China ,Venezuela and other places in South America.

Stop putting faith in government it has not work in earth history and never worked with cult leaders .

All the change and progress in 100 years in US came by the people not the government .

 

That's the funniest shit I've ever seen.

The government's didnt do it, the people forced the governments to do it... lol

Unless the people rise up and take over the governments from those currently in the political system, it is not movements of the people who changed things. It was the movement of people that called attention to issues, and when enough people came to stand behind them, a politician saw it as politically correct to back them. When they won on the basis of those stances, they (the politicians) changed the laws.

However, that is the EXCEPTION to how laws are made, not the norm. Laws are made by politicians (usually on the basis of who their financial backer is), and then either supported or struck down by the courts.

 

You are repeating the same thing I said .The govenment did not think hay this is cool that do this or that but the people mass protest force the government to do things they did not want to do.

When less than 2,000 show up at marijuana rally it does not help and does not have a chanse getting on politicians table to vote on it and debate it that alone shape cuture and norms that smoking pot is okay and safer than booze and cigarettes.

Again government does not care about people it cares about wall street and nothing more.

Unless there is massive protest like any of the above social issues it will not even get on the politicians table to vote on it and debate it.

Or give it other 5 or 10 years and hope the green party or NDP get in power.

 

When you actually DO something to make a change, let me know.

 

There is no need for the sarcastic post. The start of the thread was ((( Around 2003 it seems a wave was hittting the media and government that marijuana was going to be legal soon. Than some strange phenomena no one talked about it any more . Now 8 years after that we are going back in time not progressing. )))

It is clear we have conservative government that is going to turn Canada into like how the US is .It was not explain here why the media is so bias now.

 

Perhaps you stopped talking about it. but many people didn't. Regardless of what you may or may not have read in msm.

This has been a constant ongoing battle to get the government to change the laws... Note that part... The government... People have put their very lives on the line in support of the legalization of it here, all in order to do one thing... get the goverment to change it.

We've had rallies across the country for years. Some of them drawing over your numbers of 2000...

As for the point that we are going backwards, yes we are, BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNMENT....

Not because people stopped caring or speaking out, or more importantly taking action.