I have no experience of mescaline its self, but am very familiar with some of its analogues (2CB & I), and recently got thinking that it would be fun to grow my own for use at some point down the line, so a few questions! So San Pedro gets bigger quicker (and gets huge), and Peyote takes a long time to grow, so would be a long term project? My sources say a Peyote should be at least 12 years of age, is this correct? How long would SP take to 'get there'? Which would you choose as a little growing project and why? I want to keep one as a sort of pet / companion for a while before experimenting with it... Will I be able to take some from the plant, and then let it continue growinguntil next time I want some, or will I have to uproot the whole thing and kill it ()? And also will I need any special lamps / uv etc for growing indoors? Any opinions welcome, also feel free to add any pertinent points... Peace & Love, P
I found this when i googled "growing san pedro cactus" http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti.shtml
According to my experience, San Pedro is a tougher plant and easier to grow. Peyote is much more delicate and fragile than other cacti, you really have to be careful. I got 1 peyote that died despites the best care I could give him and I'm used to grow plants.
San Pedro's are damn near impossible to kill. I have a bunch of them in pots and they do well despite a huge amount of neglect. One of them is over 4' now.
So San Pedro would be the easier option then, with quicker results? Have you sampled any of them yet? And how long did it take to get to 4'? Thinking of ordering one soon :2thumbsup:
San Pedro is a great experience, I'd start there and if you find it worthwhile get some peyote. San pedro mescaline/alkaloid content can vary greatly.
Yeah, seems like the easiest option for a cactus n00b lol, it would be pretty cool having a big fuck off cactus for my living room though he he
Whenever I order some for a mescaline extract, I order some extra to plant. I won't sample anything I have planted until I can take some without killing the whole plant, so I haven't sampled my planted one's yet, I always just order more when I want to take some mescaline. All of my cactus started out as a 6" - 1' cutting that I potted, the oldest one is four years old, but my biggest one is only two. I have no experience with peyote, so I reall can't compare.
Cool, thanks for the info How do you go about planting cuttings? Is it just cutting the top off, and re-planting it in another pot?
You have to let the cut scab over before planting it or it will rot. That's pretty much the only sure way of actually killing your cactus. The only time I tried it myself, I fucked it up. But, when you order them, they'll come ready to pot so you don't need to do any cutting yourself.
Go for the San pedro cutinngs.All you have to do is get some cuttings you can either order off the net or find a plant and cut off 1 ft of so .It could be smaller and will work fine.You have to make sure the bottom part of the cutting dries completly.You have to wait at least a week or more to plant them,Make sure the bottom calluses over and then you are ready to plant it in a light sandy potting soil.I always add a little lime to my soil to prevent it from rotting in the future.keep in light shady area for a month or so untill it starts to root.Don't over water and let the soil dry out before you water again.In winter ,keep it more on the drier side as to much water in its dormacy will kill it.Keep in cool room in winter to prevent it from growing scragly in winter.Only fertlize in in spring in summer to.Never fertlize in fall or winter to harden it off for tis dormacy.only put in full sun graduyally to make sure it doesn't burn.Thats it and you will be having a endless supply in a few years if you do it right
San Pedro contains a multitude of beneficial and psychedelic chemicals OTHER than Mescaline. It gives a more in depth experience, and IMO a more gentile (not to say its weaker) experience.
oh man. what a quick-fix instant gratification world we live in. One thing you are gonna learn from these cacti is patience. San Pedro tend to grow fast, but not that fast. A couple feet a year isn't enough but for one dose and that's if you have the heart to chop your friend after nurturing it and seeing it grow that big. :love:. To be honest San Pedro isn't nearly as consistent as peyote in effects but then again these are cacti and there are so many variables to these things...it's nature. With some effort and a bit of research you could wind up with a potent cultivar of Peruvian Torch or Bridgesii which might be more satisfying to grow in the long run. Leave Peyote for the people who know what they are doing with it or to cultivate as an ornamental. It's nearly impossible to sustain yourself with a supply given the current situation with availability right now and it's slow rate of growth. The best advice I can give is no matter what remember these cacti are medicines. Treat them with respect, and use them to take care of yourself.
Where do you order your cacti from may I ask? Online? I'd really love to have one to look at, but I'm always sceptical about the quality of online nurseries. There may be a little cacti-zit that will ruin the pleasure I get from staring into it's spines.
The vendor I used to use was raided on BS charges, the charges ended up being dropped but he lost all his cacti and doesn't sell them anymore. A quick google search will turn up plenty of vendors, but I haven't ordered from any of them yet.
Since san pedro is faster-growing, legal and easier to care for, I'd definitely go with that. Peyote is getting more and more rare and has a special aura about it, but when it comes down to it it's the mescaline that really matters. Plus, you'd likely have to grow several peyote plants to make it worth your time (unless I'm mistaken). One big san pedro can produce a fuckton of the good stuff in a shorter space of time.
