I am conscious and self-aware, with the ability to analyse, rationalise, imagine...Life can therefore be given meaning by me (as you correctly guessed, my life is indeed meaningful in that sense to me) That doesn't mean that life on Earth came to be for a specific wider purpose at all. There is certainly no evidence that a rock has any desire to be anything, and the notion that gravity wants to be gravity is incredibly poetic but lacks backing by any proof. Indeed it is the most reliable estimate we have at this time based on radiometric dating. In this context, rather than using "ultimately" to mean the end of experience, I mean when obvious factors such as the innate desire to breed and reproduce are taken out of the equation. We all know that we have certain drives, but simply needing to reproduce others in a species or even evolve over long periods of time does not explain why any life is here in the first place.
Opel: You may have won IT, but I win THAT, always. The high altitude test of creating my self for the time being, who is me in my dream which I am off to now have, ( in bed I'm ashamed to say ) but I'll see you tomorrow! 'night punks! : D
well obviously. i was created when my parents got there bonk on. sperm meets egg. voila, here i am. a creation. i have plenty of motivations in my life but you seem to suggest that having some divine idea of how the universe was created or existance in general motivates people, and i'm just saying that as interesting it is, the birth of the universe is not what gets me out of bed in the morning. i really can't understand why it would motivate anyone knowing how the universe created....and how believing it just 'is' would serve to demotivate people. i couldn't really care less how the universe came to be, it is what it is now and that's fine with me. if you're going to bed you can't be from the UK unless you're a ligh weight.....GTFO of our forums. :tongue:
I'm not sure I understand the difference Science is a very human endeavour, just one that's a hell of a lot more accurate than, say, guesswork.
It is cool to be inspired. It is as easy to say that the fact that life exists demonstrates that it can exist but there is always potential for more. Potential exists latent until exercised. There are many things that can be done but are not.
You are part of a pulse, a motive, a direction of development, without which you do not exist. Part of a whole all moving in the same direction. Creation is a law without opposite. Your biology in temporary terms, is your motivator. There is not one thing you do that is not for the apparent benefit of the body, whether it be to eat, to provide shelter, or even to read a book in order to ease your mind.
Does there need to be proof to recognize that bodies are accretions. Mass attracts mass. The weight of your intent is the gravity around which accumulate the experiences of your life. It is true that you give your life all the meaning it has for you, but your motive for finding meaning is to be. My descriptions of gravity and intent may be poetic, but they are accurate. They are the same principle expressed in different mediums. Why do you discount what you call obvious incentives. If they are obvious incentives, then why don't you count it as cause. Seems to me that line of discounting your obvious incentives can cause you to doubt whether you are even real. Your own obvious incentive is the desire to be whatever.