Link Read this in the paper today, about the honour killings. Ughhh. Some of the stuff coming out about Libya seems just as bad if not worse than Iraq. But how can you just blame the regime when shit like this happens. What kind of animal slits his own young daughters throats for being packed raped by arsehole soldiers
There was a time when it was okay to beat, rape and kill black people in the US and it was considered to be an acceptable thing. Through the effort of many people working together, those things changed. There are many similar examples that can be cited. Most have the same thing in common... they were either in a political system that was open to change from within (democratic 'based' systems), or the government was forced by the people through massive actions that led to a 'better' government. As long as the current political systems are in place in those countries, things like honor killings and such will continue as they are the accepted way of life. Perhaps what is going on now will lead to the same type of changes there that have happened elsewhere?
If you are in a country which is destroying another country by war, you better dont believe your countries corporate mainstream mass media stories which go along with the war. Its mostly lies and propaganda. The media of the country being attacked tend to be closer to the truth than the agressor countries media.
Honor killings are lies and propaganda??? :smilielol5: Dude, put the crack pipe down, you've had way too much.
Human interactions,whether horrendous or empathetic continue unabated from pre-history into the present. It's been ever thus and aparently will remain so. True believers can be dangerous and none more so than the adherants of those bodies of knowledge that claim truth to existance. The money changers are as responsible. Belief can become disease. And has.
btw that happens almost every day in the world that parents kill their children and vice versa. When does it make the way into the headlines of an agressor country? Right, when it can be used as propaganda against the enemy/victim country to distract from, lets say war crimes commited by the agressor who is killing civilians/children almost every day.
Does the name Caylee Anthony mean anything to you? Why do you feel it is better for you to spread your propaganda then it is for other groups to do so?
the official propaganda that goes along with an agression war is 24/7 on all mass media, so its not necessary to spread it all over internet as well. Everybody sees their version of the events and is informed on that more than enough. The point of view that those are illegal agression wars is underrepresented, its needed to make some balance to the mass media point of view.
So to combat one extreme, you take the other? That makes you just as bad as those you oppose.... Good job!
You just can't be straightforward about anything can you? I think you are an extremist because you lie and misuse information in the same way as those you claim to disdain for using those tactics. You don't fix these problems in this manner, you just extend them.
You need to understand that these people live in the middle ages. The only real education most of them get is their family and some imam indoctrinating them with what they perceive to be religious values. Unfortunately those religious values are born from - and mixed with - all kinds of of backwards tribal rites.
Maybe, but it is a very well known and documented FACT that such "honor killings" are sanctioned, condoned and even promoted by the radical fundamentalist Muslim factions, and such murders are socially accepted. Why aren't you posting in Muslim sites about that? Doesn't have a damn thing to do with the current military actions or propaganda or any of the other types of "justifications" you strive to make for some actions of those at odds with America. I mean that is all it really comes down to for you, if you see the slightest opportunity to decry America's policies or actions you jump on it, embellish it, and run with no thought as to the legitimacy of your sources or claims.
We've got honor killings in western countries presenting new chalenges to democratic legal systems. Its not about war and its consequences; its about a belief system where honor killings are considered normal. Rendering judgement, and expresing condenmenation can be a liberating experience, try it ! :sultan:
I remember quite a few honour killings in my lifetime in my own country, I think one was from a suspected rape. It's more a religious issue than government one, you wouldn't see a non-muslim do something like that... Or is it propaganda? http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/library/statements/protect-evidence-of-war-crimes-in-libya.html I just wonder if they're looking for war crimes on both sides...
i'd say he was (horribly) misguided, but i'm almost sure he must have thought it was a mercy killing.