So the 'effect' is the same plugging as it is with IM? I find IM to be less physically disabling, more uplifting, and more euphoric than nasal. The afterglow is incredible with IM as well.
Word on my dissociatve street is that plugging is the way to go with MXE. Having said that, I've yet to plug anything. I suppose if the day comes soon it will be with MXE. I have a hardcore friend who said 80 plugged hit him like 120 insufflated. I heard a rumor I cannot substantiate that the synthesist who invented MXE plugs it. Sounds like a stellar recommendation if it's true.
I have some mxe coming in, I guess I'll have to try plugging as well once. I really am quite sure I'll still prefer im injection if nothing else but for the ritual, and based on my 4-meo pcp experience and Spicey Cat's dosage comparison of plugged vs. nasal it sounds like Im is superior but I'll give it a whirl for shits n giggles.
I look forward to hearing results from both of you. Experimental data rocks my world when it comes from reliable and hardcore psychonauts such as yourself. Appreciate the willingness to share results also.
That's my experience as well, I started out insufflating and then IM and finally plugged. 80mg plugged is like 100 plus insufflated. I hate the chemical flavor though and I'm secure enough not to be bothered by the plugging thing.
IM 80 mgs is like equivalent to 150-160 ish snorted but without all the wonky body feelings of snorting, I think I may reconsider wasting my mxe by plugging it.
It's all the same to me:sick2: What makes you like plugging the best? Same dosage, seems like more of a hassle to stick it up the bum then hold it under my tongue. You mentioned the trip was a little longer, but is the high any different or anything?
I have only done up to 40 and it works well with that. 2ml should be okay with 80-100. I wouldnt go over 3ml. That is a lot of solution to inject.
I found the first time I i/med 125mg of mxe I thought I was going to die, redosing was pointless after I redosed 5 or 6 times in the first day.
Well, I acquired some 5/8 inch 25g 1ml syringes instead of my usual 1 inch 23g 3ml syringes. I suppose I could use those for deltoid injections but that would be quite a feat to do solo I believe. I have some 1 1/2 inch 22g 3ml syringes but they are so long and hurt pretty bad. I only feel comfortable sticking them in one inch so it is tricky keeping the depth while injecting. My thighs need a break anyway and I am not comfortable with deltoid injections because it seems much riskier.
Deltoid sounds sketchy. If both thighs are hamburger, how about the buttocks? Upper arm? I'd keep it in thick fleshy extremity parts.
Deltoid is arm and the only place a can use those 5/8 needles. Been doing a lil reading and I think I will be ok administering myself until I an get my one inch needles back then. That area is just so small, it's a bit intimidating. Then my thighs should have recovered by then. Also, have been using my rectus femoris muscles and could always switch to my vastus lateralis which would probably be better anyway. When I get more one inch needles of course. Actually, those 1 1/2 inch needles may be easier to control depth using them in my VL. Idk, I'll see.
iv'd 12mg of mxe and 10mg of opana on one occasion. i can't even describe the infinite bliss that ensued, though i have no desire to repeat.
I gotta quit posting when high AND go back to high school anatomy - it's only been 25 years, . I was thinking pectoral region when I read deltoid for some reason. Deltoid is definately legit for IM.