Consciousness revolution

the way structured my post was in a way that outlined the process to finding "the source". the keyword being *Process*.

first you acknowledge life is crappy and sucks etc. that part is obvious everybody knows that already.
then, either conciously or subconciously you begin to look for a way to coupe with life and what ever problems you have. this is where the search for the source BEGINS. the easy way to deal with the harsh world is with mind altering substances. (ie alcohol and drugs) these substances ussually make things even more difficult to find "the source" because they affect your mind in ways you can not control. You NEED control of your mind to find the "source" so most mind altering substances are actually counterproductive towards attaining control of your mind.

"control of your mind", does that imply that you are not actually part of your mind? yes it does. if your mind controls your body, and you are not part of your mind, it is probable to say that you are not your body. do you agree?
you said so your self "happiness is not being a slave to your body ..." so i do know you understand the concept, and that is part of the process. mind over matter and such.

so if you're not your body, i believe its safe to assume that your body is more of a machine or Vessel [New Age term]. what is the operator then? in simplistic terms the operator is your soul, the operator is your conciousness; Scientology's name for your conciousness [being aware of being aware] is a "Thetan".

if you get to this point it opens up a whole NEW kind of search. a search for evidence of a thetan world or spirit world or sub dimensional frequency(ies) that subtlely manipulate the physical world. but the fact is you realise the physical world is not the only regulator of life [in general].

so what is "the source" ?
its not love. Love is only PART of the source. Granted Love seems to be the Strongest part of the source that we can see, but its not THE source. Love is the glue that keeps physical human complex together. with out love humans are just squishy rocks that can walk.

i can easily say the source is God, but you [or any one who maybe reading this] won't believe me until you/they experience it for yourself. needless to say the path is not an easy one, but there are many. ultimately, the objective of a human thetan is simple, overcome the physical world.

 

[quote the objective of a human thetan is simple, overcome the physical world.][/quote]
Cool! I think I'm on the right part. Overcoming unhealthy habits is the toughest part.

That sounds pretty far out. Is there evidence of these things?

I'm glad you said this. Many paths lead to 'love' being the conclusion. I've always been skeptical of that being the end all be all. Theres got to be more to the 'source'. Like a tangible state or process. Is the source the end all be all? Or is it like Nirvana. A state one is in?

 

Every thing i've found is circumstantial and i'm not exactly gunna devote my life to finding these things you know ? lol

have you ever been to a church where the energy feels so powerful that people actually start to cry? i've been to those churches, i've felt the energy. its a very wierd feeling.

 

Yes, I've seen and felt it. I think of it as the tent revival effect. Is that man made? I've seen other events that make people ecstatic and weird energies. The anthropologist in me wants to think its man made manipulation of peoples thoughts feelings and see and do mimic behavior of the crowd. I dont know?

 

i thought about it in a similar way. i dont think it specificly man made, i think its a natural occurance. i see and feel similar vibes when i go to concerts and hear amazing musicians play their music [like jeff beck]. obviously, preachers and musicians have different intentions but i can see how the manipulation of energies effects people. maybe its just in every body's heads who knows?

if its not in every body's head what can it be? is the energy real? i've pondered methods of finding out if its real and have come to the conclusion that finding proof of its existance will be extensive, requiring extensive education.

first, (assuming this energy force is real) i would look at the biology of a human to see what, and how, the energy force COULD affect/manipulate the human body and other animals.

second i'd look into chemistry to see how it the energy affects atoms and a cell's fuel source [branching off of bioloigy]

then you could branch into different subjects like
Quantum physics to see what it does
Psychology to see if its not just in peoples head
sociology to see large scale manipulation
music
History for insight of the past

if the source drives life i'd assume it'd encompass all parts of life.

 

idk what the source is,

the source is God. - thats the simple answer.

if the source is god and the source is only works subtly.
then god seems to work only subtly.

if you want to talk about god thats a whole other kind of "far out".

 

Styve--At-Large said:

Does this mean that I should not worry about people (including myself) going through things like war, death, suffering, pain, insanity, atomic bombs, disease, global warming, plastic oceans, food and water shortage or anything similar? I´m kind of confused here.

I´ve felt like some drugs have actually helped in finding the "source", could I be wrong about that? Psychadellics, to be more specific. Or do you think that these only make you feel like you're one with everything, without taking you closer to the "source"?

You aren't talking about Jesus, or father, are you?

 

It's interesting what Styve said. I am a musician. I have also read a little about Sufism and various "New Age" things about music and vibrations. Think about it like this water responds and reacts to external vibrations. Your body is about 90% water. Put two and two together on that one.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

you could worry about what ever you want, i'm not really trying to convince you of anything. its like taking care of your house, either you are worry free and let your house become a dump or try to clean up for better living conditions.

i think drugs can help, but i'd personally prefer to stay away from drugs because people will say "oh its the drugs talking" as opposed to a legitamate discovery of the inner mind. if you base your experience off drugs then the simple conclusion is the drugs manipulated YOU.

drugs help in a sense that they make you lose control of your body and show you that your body will not listen to you. which shows you that your body is more like a machine that can be altered and modified.

 

Actually i'm looking to not worry about any of these, but its hard for me

You're right about drugs, it's just the change in perception which helps.

I am in fact wanting to be convinced, because it sounds like the best thing to do.

Life is wearing me out.. perhaps my worries are