What if God is actually human and we are all God?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by walsh, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    So god said he created us Humans in his image. Humans are known for their ability to create, whether art, machines, relationships. Humans have recently created life, and if it is possible to do that, it would be possible to eventually create humans. Now, christians say only god has the ability to create life and yet we Humans have done so. If the old vedic religions were correct and historians are correct, history goes in cycles. Perhaps we also had that ability to create life in the past and we advanced to the stage where were able to create humans. This would make us god in a biblical sense. But this ability to create life led to the creation of what we call 'god', leading to the Kali Yuga, the downfall referred to in the bible, and the time we are living in now. In the bible, Humans are the 'fallen', and that is why we 'sin'. Yet out sins are nowhere near as bad as god's sins, as GreatestIAm has pointed out in his threads - god is responsible for mass extinction, genocide, rape but no individual could go anywhere near that kind of malice.

    So I put it to you that we are the real god and that god described in the bible is the only true human, the only true fallen one. I believe this is the best and most Christian interpretation of the bible possible.
     
  2. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    After itself everything repeats.
    layered conceptions of other beings.

    Thats from a poem i wrote. I was trying to express basically what you just said.

    I've never thought of it in terms of God and creation, but I do believe everything is cyclical and everything is layered infinitely.
     
  3. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    The interpretation of the bible is an interpretations of Akkadian mythology which is an interpretation of Sumerian culture.
    Sumerian religion states that when the gods came from another planet, they genetically modified Cronus and Magnus and fashioned us after what they looked like.
     
  4. 7he4uthor

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    Cro-Magnon Man.

    7he resentment against god that walsh expreses is likely the reason for the
    extinction, genocide, rape he compains about.

    6etting rid of satan the bitch who judges the creator.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    This makes it purely your individual interpretation of the bible.

    Very interesting thoughts in your posts nevertheless, except the cliché that God is responsable for mass extinction and genocide or the conclusion that that makes him the ultimate human or a bigger sinner than us. That being said, the main issue I have with christian faith is that we are sinners and Jesus died for our sins.
     
  6. 7point65

    7point65 Banned

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    If God is a human and I am a God then I would REALLY LIKE TO KNOW why my magic wand has been busted all these years. Lately I would have worked the magic to give my truck 100 MPG. Plus who wouldn't want a power meter that runs backward ALL THE TIME....:D
     
  7. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    So basically what you're saying is what if religion is total bullshit.

    Yep, I agree.
     
  8. gnostic enki

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    Ya all of the semitic or mid eastern religions and allegories, can all be traced to the original stories and religion of the Sumerians. The god race of tall white bearded human resembling people came from outer space in chariots and physically altered proto humans. They used science and had advanced technology, taught all of civilization to mankind guided by Enki. In opposition to Enlil his brother and the annunaki member who taught mankind discipline, elitism and warfare. Thus through the ages the accounts of our star progenitors was twisted and turned and masked with every locality of the peoples who contained the knowledge at the time. Hebrews made enlil Jehovah, due to the Israelites constant suffering and discipline and elitist tribal nature. Whereas the Greek philosophers and Egyptians saw different faces of enki the god of knowledge love and freedom and tweaked it to their daily lives and likings.
     
  9. gnostic enki

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    What interests me is the fact that even humanity outside of the general mid east and Mediterranean worlds somehow retain this same basic cosmology. The general themes and allegories, such as in Mexico Scandinavia Africa australia and the far east, especially the Aztec and Mayan religions regarded return of white bearded gods, which was their ultimate downfall with the Spanish. The mexican records are in my opinion the most pure instances of this theory, as their culture was hardly as much corrupted as was that of the mid east and Europe's detailing of this knowledge.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I would be interested in knowing what you mean by creating life and perhaps some articles that say it is so.
     
  11. Okiefreak

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    And where did they get it? According to the late Stephen Jay Gould, renowned evolutionary biologist and atheist, there were countless forks in the evolutionary road that could have led to outcomes quite different from intelligent, creative beings. So I guess we got lucky.
    The idea of history going in cycles is interesting. The Aztecs, Toltecs and Mayans had the same concept. In their theology, the world as we know it is the fifth iteration in the creation cycle. The previous four were scrapped because of their deficiencies resulting from the personality failings of particular gods in charge of the committees responsible. The latest effort is the result of the god Quetzalcoatl who created the people, who resurrected the previous people by sprinkling his own blood on their bones. But the operative word is 'If". Is there evidence that the vedic or Meso-american religions were correct? Are you willing to bet your life on it? Or is it just speculation to counteract prevailing Judeo-Christian concepts?



    It might be overstating just a tad to say the "humans have recently created life." Assuming you're talking about the Venter experiment, what they did was to insert synthesized DNA of M.Mycoides into cells of the Mycoplasma capricolium goat germ. The cell into which the material was inserted was not just a container.

    These "sins" of the Hebrew Yahweh are Bronze Age metaphors to be understood in the context of Jewish history. To take them literally and try to rationalize them, which I don't, would be tantamount to worshiping a monster.



    Having observed humans in Congress trying to resolve the debt limit crisis, I'd say we're a long way from being gods. I still find merit in the Proverb 16:18: "Pride goeth before destruction..."
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Yep, a long, long way. [​IMG]
     

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