barbiturates (fioricet) and psychedelics

I am going swimming today.

I wanted to take about 25 mg of aMT.

I was prescribed and I am currently taking Fioricet (50 mg of butalbital).


Will this interfere with the aMT and is it dangerous?

Thanks for the help, all.


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my only concern would be that the sedation from the barb in it would put a slight damper on the aMT's effects, but since you take it everyday you probably have a little tolerance where that shouldnt be an issue, plus it contains caffeine. I really see no reason why there would be any significant interactions between the two. In fact i would recommend that you DO take it as not to precipitate barbiturate withdrawal while your tripping, however mild it might be.

barbs and aMT don't even effect any of the same receptors, so i would say your good to go my man:2thumbsup:. Good job btw checking first and being safe.

Have fun swimming!:sunny:

 

Thank you for the timely, epic and helpful response. I mean it, that was an epic response. I read it aloud and the person I am with agreed with me.

Thanks again and enjoy your day and weekend.

 

I just received another response. GM said she did a quick search and found that because aMt is an MAOI, it may interfere with Barbs and cause convulsions. :/

 

My would you do it while swimming?

 

Barbs killed Hendrix. They are no joke . . . as for aMT being an MAOi . . . ehhhh not so sure about that. No more of one than say mushrooms. I've drank a lot on aMT and I'm not a drinker and I never got in any trouble. But barbs in general you should be careful, especially when swimming. Were you just prescribed the barbs very recently? I didn't know they were still used at ALL in medicine. If you have just begun taking it I would be really careful your first time mixing and wouldn't do it around water. Maybe try your daily dose + 10mg aMT at first, wait a few days, try with 20mg aMT, etc.

 

While aMT is a very weak inhibitor of MAO, you need not worry. In order for the MAOI effects of aMT to have any kind of significant interaction, you would have to take a very VERY high dose of aMT. im talking hundreds of milligrams to grams. That much aMT would most certainly kill you, all maoi interactions aside.

im 99.9% sure that you wont run into any problems. If your still realy worried about it there are a couple things you can do to be extra safe. Like Mr. Writer suggested, you can start low and titrate up until you hit your desired dose. This is a tried and true method for testing the safety and side effect profile for any psychedelic drug. i would guess that most people go with the general concencus of what a light, moderate, or heavy dose would be, then go from there. But everyone is different and you could have that one in a million allergy or negative reaction to a specific chem. So really theres nothing wrong with dose titration, it just takes a little patience on your part. IME i have yet to run into a chem where i found this to be necessary. I just trust in the literature and live with the understanding that there is always some degree of risk involved when it comes to taking drugs.

The other option is this. Now i dont know what you take the fioricet for, but if its not completely necessary you could try not taking it for a day and see how you feel without it. If you dont run into any issues there then the next day you can dose the aMT without worry of interaction.

 

Thanks all. I really mean it. Thanks for every response. It says something about you guys that you respond to questions like these.


I take the Fioricet for what my doctor calls vasular headaches. I just recently got a headache that lasted 5 days. The fifth day is when I went to the doctor. It seems to have went away.


The last time I took the medication was before I went to the pool. I currently only have very, very subtle pressure around my head. I left before I could see your last few responses. I essentially did what you guys agreed on. I took my daily dose and took a low dose of 13 mg.


It was actually quite epic in a couple ways. I brought a lot of water and stayed hydrated. Swimming was epic. After swimming, physical contact was great, but I was lost me breath quickly. It was understood that the barbiturates were heightened. So, I didn't do as much work as I usually do. I don't mean to "kiss and tell," but my love was ultra horny; moreso than the usual aMT dose. She took 15 mg. I think the slightly heightened psychedelia that comes with high doses make it harder to be horny (not that sex is hard on aMT). A low dose was epic in this department. She was EXTREMELY sensitive and could not stop.

I was the same way, but every muscle in my body felt as if it was 3:30 a.m. and I just woke up (except they weren't stiff, they were very loose). It was not a bad feeling, it was actually awesome if I was just laying down. I am a sedative lightweight and very inexperienced in that department, but this feeling was, to a lesser extent, what I assumed heroin would be like. lol. The only problems were, I wanted to have sex and I found myself losing my breath sort of easy.


To sum it up, the aMT definitely heightened the barbs. The barbs I am prescribed are the weakest, from my research and also a pretty low dose (50 mg). But, this was the most sedated I have been. I would have preferred the aMT alone, though.


Writer, I thought the same thing. But, my doctor is in his 80s. Maybe that has something to do with the prescription. Hah. Also, I have had injuries in the past that have been painful and probably needed some sort of opiate painkiller and he did not prescribe anything. He seems reluctant to prescribe things like that for injuries and ailments that aren't too significant.


Thanks again all. :2thumbsup: