Pointers...?

Discussion in 'DMT' started by SydBlotter, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. SydBlotter

    SydBlotter Member

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    I have been researching allot lately. I am very intrigued by this "un-explainable" substance. I think I'm prepared for the experience (well as much as I can be.) I would appreciate a bit of guidance from experienced users.

    First off, I will be extracting it myself using this fairly simple tek:
    http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Lazyman%27s_tek
    (Nice one 'Overdose')

    I was planning on getting hold of 200g of sodium hydroxide, 500g of Mimosa hostilis root bark and using zippo lighter fluid as the solvent (bad idea?)

    I have read Spicey_cats tek, but I would rather keep it as simple yet as effective as possible and preferably avoid any freezing processes. (Shared freezer)

    Any tips on the extraction processes?

    Assuming all goes well, and I have a few grams of mind-blowing, reality-bending crystals in front of me. What would be the best way to put the fruits of my labor to use?

    I understand it needs to be vapourised, not smoked. What is the most effective method of consumption? Other than injecting...

    Right, I have my DMT, I have my preferred smoking medium and a set of scales that can't measure less than a gram. - Now what?

    I have read allot about "breaking through" - Fascinating stuff. Does this require a bigger hit? Should I go all out first time? or build up to it?

    *Note. I am not new to psychedelics. I have been experimenting with LSD over the past year and it has really changed the way I think. I understand how ignorant I once was. LSD, for me, was a life lesson. I can't help but think DMT is the next piece of the puzzle.

    Sorry about all the questions, I have done my homework. I just want to make sure I am on the right lines.

    Thanks for any help, hopefully a trip report will follow.
     
  2. guerillabedlam

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    I use a bubbler and the sandwich method which is putting the herb damiana in a bowl first, then dmt on top of that, and then another layer of Damiana on top of the DMT in a bubbler with water. Lower layer is to prevent the DMT falling through the stem hole and the upper layer is to give the DMT a chance to vaporize and minimize burning DMT and lessen the taste of the harsh DMT smoke, I just light the top layer of damiana and allow the heat and flame to trickle down to the DMT below, I find this method efficient. I have not contrasted it with vaporizing from a meth pipe but I have read mixed results with both methods.

    There are fairly inexpensive milligram scales that can be found online, I have used the edge of razor before and picked out maybe a pea size clump of DMT which is good. DMT blankets my lower level of herb for breakthrough doses.

    It's really up to you, I'd recommend attempting breakthrough on your initial trip because imo that's where the DMT experience separates itself from other psychedelics. DMT can be finicky sometimes, even beyond the issues of properly vaporizing it, I'd say a few (3-5 hits) consistent large hits is the optimal route for breakthrough but i've broke through in as little as 2. You don't need to milk the hits and hold them in like you do with Salvia but I'd try and be a bit more diligent with vaporizing it then you might be smoking pot.

    Good luck, look forward to reading about your experience(s).
     
  3. PassionateChemist

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    http://www.dealextreme.com/p/digital-precision-scale-20g-max-0-001g-resolution-10515
    Here's a link for a fairly inexpensive very precise scale. I've never bought of this site so can't give you any details about the quality.

    I don't have a scale that goes more precise than 1 gram either. I just put a bit in a vaporizer (Name: Eagle Bill Vaporizer, you can google it) and heat up good. I've used it about 9 times and always 1 hit breakthrough. The DMT you don't inhale just stays in the vaporizer and recrystallizes. To make sure alot won't escape into the air I put something on it after the hit(or a sitter).
     
  4. Overdose

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    If you live in the "right" area you can probably find inexpensive meth pipes a.k.a. oil burners at gas stations or whatever but I don't know how it is in U.K. I think most people have more luck with that than the pipe sandwich method guerillabedlam described. And yeah I advise you don't bother attempting anything less than a breakthrough dose if that's what you really want, but low dosing is fun too :) Basically if you aren't successful in your first few attempts you should definitely read into improving vaporizing techniques. It's a bit tricky but not at all impossible.

    Yeah, DO NOT use zippo unless you want to smoke residual toxic chemicals. Find NAPTHA or another clean solvent to use (you can test it by evaporating a pool and seeing if it leaves any residue, if it does DON'T USE IT). There's a way to check the contents of your particular solvents online to see if there are unwanted additives, just look it up. As long as the solvent's clean then open evaporation is fine (as opposed to freeze precipitation).

    As for extraction advice, note that whatever your methods are the goal is to not have any black lye soup in the solvent in the end. You can do a multiple decant by pouring off the clean solvent into several jars or carefully siphoning it off with the bulb syringe I told you about. Also I learned the hard way not to attempt this procedure outdoors in extremely cold temperatures.

    Also if you plan on extracting the full 500g MHRB then 200g of lye probably isn't enough. It's best to keep the ratio at about 1:1 so use 400-500g of lye.
     
  5. Overdose

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    And don't worry about the scales, just load a pee size wad up and smoke as much as you can!
     
  6. BillyX

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    Personally i think making a changa blend is the easiest way to smoke DMT as you can just smoke it through a bong, it burns easily (no need to vape) & doesnt taste like shit.
     
  7. SydBlotter

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    How would one go about this? Would anyone else recommend this idea?
     
  8. Overdose

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    Yeah I've never tried it but have always heard it works really well, that'd probably be your best bet if you don't want to shell out 100 bucks on a glass Vapor Genie pipe.
     
  9. guerillabedlam

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    The Maoi's of Changa herbs, change the way the trip feels to me. I imagine you could do the same thing with non-maoi herbs though to make it easier to smoke, not sure if that's technically considered Changa or not.
     
  10. BillyX

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    Head over to the DMT-Nexus you should find all the relevant info on making some changa there!
     

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