Feeling a sense of oneness

One time when I tripped a while ago, I remember messaging my friend and I told him I was tripping and I remember he asked me if I feel a sense of oneness with everything and I said no not really.

I don't think I've ever felt like that. Is that how you guys feel when you trip? I've been kinda hearing that a lot lately, people believe that we're all one.

Maybe I haven't tripped hard enough to feel that or experience that.

Is it just a belief or do you actually experience oneness when you're tripping or what?
What's the deal here?

 

It's not a belief, it's a direct experience of reality. You need to increase dose big time eat 5 hits of strong stuff and then see how you feel about you and not you

 

I have got that impression before on psychedelics, but I couldn't tell you to take a certain dose and guarantee that reaction will occur, because we're different

But yah, I have experienced that before, I'm not sure that necessarily entails belief but it seemed convincing while I was experiencing it.

 

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After experiencing it, do you like, always see everyone as one, or what?
I kinda quit taking acid after a few bad experiences, the bad experiences were due to poor sets and settings, but lately I've been thinking of trying again. I really want to experience that now
jakdsj;akldsj What's it like?!

 

Maybe I should like, think about it when I take a high dose and I'll experience it...

 

we are all one, but it is nothing spritual, more like a universal concept no more spiritual then two plus two = four

you can experience it would lsd or psilocybin

but rather science E=mc2

 

No, it is a fleeting phenomena during the trip for me, I actually tend to feel quite isolated from people following LSD trips unless I tripped with someone. LSD amazes me in it's ability to amplify and color my thoughts, it's as if I have a detached perspective into the workings of my own mind without feeling diassociated/removed from it. I essentially feel myself but I feel as if I am experiencing the world in a fluctuating mental state, like my thoughts and emotions no longer feel dictated by my surroundings, nothing is as stable as it is right now, as for instance when I'm writing this to you.

 

luckily, you don't need to constantly be tripping to see that all is actually one. the best tool that psychs can be towards this is to lift the veil and give you that initial glimpse.

 

keep it in your awareness but don't go thinking about it, it will only distance you from the truth of it. just see it.

also, there's a huge difference between feeling at one with everything and seeing that everything IS one, despite whether you feel merged with it all or not. The merging experience is always fun though, and beautiful, but don't kick and scream when it leaves you, because it will.

 

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well basically it's like falling in love . . . afterwards nothing is the same, but you are still the same person with the same head, still able to get ticked off at your noisy neighbor. If you are after the ego-death experience I suggest tryptamines rather than LSD. 3-5g of good mushrooms solo will take you there in a nuclear powered ship, whereas with LSD you can take 5 really good hits and STILL be essentially "together" and just seeing a strong narrative of oneness. LSD isn't the most efficient at producing this effect, you have to dose quite high. Even on 15 hits I was using my cellphone. On 2.5g of mushrooms I spilled a drink and it was I that spilled out onto the floor, as real as the fact that "i spilled a drink". Forget using a cellphone, I was trying to "alpha centauri" as a verb.

Alan Watts captures some of the LSD oneness effects beautifully

 

i've experienced this "one-ness"

like guerilla said, it's a fleeting thing though. i try to remember it in my everyday life, but yeah, i still get pissed at other people (myself?)

i've gotten this effect with LSD and 2ce (sort of low doses). probably on mushrooms too, but i don't remember

 

in reality, there is no you. and yes the universe is all one being (there is only you/me). i think i'll grab a line from Roshi Shunryu Suzuki:

"you are living in this world as one individual, but before you take the form of a human being, you are already there, always there. we are always here. do you understand? you think before you were born you were not here. but how is it possible for you to appear in this world, when there is no you? because you are already there, you can appear in the world. Also, it is not possible for something to vanish which does not exist. because something is there, something can vanish. you may think that when you die, you disappear, you no longer exist. but even though you vanish, something which is existent cannot be non existent. that is the magic"

 

Well you can understand the concept without tripping too. I haven't tripped, and I still understand this intergalactic one-ness. I don't know if it's anything close to experiencing on psychedelics though.

Look up the principle of dependent origination. Basically, it explains that there's absolutely nothing in this world that exists independently. Everything is a result of other things. For example, you are a mix of your parents, who are a mix of their parents, and so on. A table is a mix of wood, screws, paint... wood is a tree. A tree is a mix of light, earth, nutrients, seed (which all come from other trees). Theres nothing on this earth that exists just by itself.

Even at a a subatomic level (this is where I may be explaining this wrong because I'm really not versed in this), at the core of the smallest molecules, there is nothing. Anti matter. Potential.

When you get to thinking about that stuff, even from a scientific perspective: Nothing exists independently, therefore the only two options left are: (a) Nothing exists at all, or (b) we are all one thing.

Make sense?

 

I always find astrophysics and astronomy illustrate well how we are all the same. Look into how the formation of planets occurs. As Carl Sagan said, we are all star stuff contemplating star stuff.

Other posters have answered your question quite sufficiently. I will just add that, for me, it was always important that I educate myself pre-trip and contemplate these things. When I then proceeded to trip, the answers to my ponderings came much more clearly and readily.

Just taking a bunch of mushrooms or LSD and awaiting the mysteries of the universe to reveal themselves to you is probably not going to work.

And yes, I have felt a very strong sense of oneness; the first time, after a very strong dose of mushrooms, but even after returning to reality I knew it to be truth. Much like I can still realize the illusion of time, see spectacular beauty in something as simple as a blade of grass, for example.

We are still very much human, with all the emotions and flaws that come with that condition, but under a light of understanding, I think, and for me the result is I take life much less seriously and I no longer worry in the slightest about things that took up tremendous amount of energy in the past for me.

 

When you do trip Shiv, you're gonna trip. I'm amped for you. :sunny:

 

HUGE difference Shivaya. It's the difference between understanding the concept of "the temperature of the surface of a star" and standing on the surface of a star !

 

i like this

 

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Let's just hope I end up getting what I need!

I get it. A very wise man I know once told me however that meditation and psychedelics have the same destination, but psychedelics are like a shortcut. He was telling me this is why psychedelics should be treated with great respect. Because there are some yogis spend their life meditating in order to achieve what can be achieved in a few hours with the use of psychedelics.

Don't get me wrong, I'm faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from being there with my meditation practice, but I'm just saying this feeling of one-ness can be achieved in other ways than psychedelics.

 

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