It all happened at a Shpongle concert. I went to my first Shpongle concert sober, so this time I wanted something new. I brought in about 5 hits worth of it into the show. I began by taking one hit; it took more than an hour to kick in and I felt I should try just a little bit more. It slowly came on stronger and stronger. I wanted to get to the point where I could feel the music and get energized by the amazing mixes of Simon Posford. But I was growing impatient for the drugs to take full effect. So I licked my finger and dabbed it into the powder for more. The concert hall was too dark to see inside my bag so I had to sense everything by feel. About 10 minutes later my friend asked how much I took. I told him I didn't know and to examine what was left of my bag. there wasn't any powder left; I consumed the whole thing. It was excellent molly and I had a blast. When the effects peaked i felt amazing. I survived the night and didn't have any cranial pains the next morning. But my friend was worried about me and how much I took. Did I overdo it? Should I have just been patient and sat through with using only one or 2 hits? Did I waste good molly by taking so much at once? How about the risks of taking that much?
Depends on how much this "hit" you speak of was. They should have each been about 100mg or maybe more. I would take it a little slower next time, your giving yourself a very high tolerance taking half a gram that quickly. I have never been a fan of redosing, I know many people do it, but IMO that alone is a waste of good molly. It's much easier on your body to dose once, any redose is less effective until your body has to time to replenish it's chemicals.
The only thing wasteful was that you ate it over a long period of time. If you wanna eat 500mg MDMA, then put it in a parachute and eat it. I've eaten that much in one dose, just once. Its a whole other experience, the strength of the euphoria and emotional opening is almost terrifying, and your body definitely pays for it. What do you mean by cranial pains, what does that have to do with anything too much MDMA can cause anything from heart attack/death to just severe depression for a few days/weeks afterwards. Since you are alive and you feel fine I'm guessing you made it alright, just don't waste anymore molly on redosing and you should take a long break from it, like a few weeks minimum.
^^pretty much. you'll have some amount of tolerance by then. but i know shulgin often gave supplements about half-way through the experience to help extend the duration.
One redose at the one hour mark is a dosing system that has been used widely in the therapeutic context, where one would give a patient say 100mg at T and then 50mg at T+40mins or something, it lessens the brunt of the crash and extends the process gently. But here we are talking about taking like 100mg every hour for 5 hours. After the first redose it really is wasteful.
I didn't realize a tolerance could be built up from mdma. It makes sense though. I saw some people at the concert rolling harder than I was and I got jealous, so I kept on taking more and more. 500mg sounds about like the amount I took if not more. I won't be rolling anytime in the foreseeable future. Someday though.
Tolerance builds to every single chemical in the universe, from cocaine to coffee to tylenol to cyanide
You'll be alright, but redosing MDMA is a waste tho as has been mentioned. 250 mgs + 60-75 mgs caffiene gets me in a good place. But why did you even waste making a thread like this, why aren't we discussing the Shpongle show? Yah Ecstasy Rules
this is what i'm saying! Haven't had any in a long whiiiiiiile, but if you want a HARD roll, i think this might be what you're looking for...maybe not and now :hide: at least you got to enjoy simon man!!! this is the first year I haven't seen him in like 4 years, soooo sad, sooo fucking sad
I needed some quick info since I hadn't had a MDMA dose like that before. But you're absolutely right! Any Shpongle event is worth a discussion thread or two. The concert was great! Simon took a lot of Shpongle's songs and remixed them all into one massive song which seemed to last nearly as long as the entire concert. I listen to my shpongle tracks frequently and it sounded like nothing I've ever heard him play before! The visuals on the stage were very intense! Here's what it looked like: [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLwjBTWUtOA The mask was in animated in 3D all those projected visuals on the side screens of that stage structure. THere were only two dancers on the stage this time, whereas last year there were more like 6 dancers dressed in African tribe inspired costumes which were lit up in black light. This concert took place in a ballroom which had springs and shock absorbers beneath the floorboards (which reduce injury if a dancer falls over), this made the entire floor vibrate which intensified the music's energy as it flowed through your body. I took off my shoes because it felt more intense with the molly. Overall, the shpongle experience is so much more spiritual on E. But when I went to last year's show sober, I got to the front stage and Simon walked over to me, looked me in the eye and gave me the fist bump! So overall, that makes the two shows a very close tie in quality. You ever seen them live? Only Simon was there. But I hope to one day go to a really big venue which has Raja Ram and some live instrumentals in a show.
Raja Ram doesn't come to the US that often, if ever {i'm trying to find the info I once had discovered about this, but I have not yet been successful} we need to create enough of an uproar so that maybe one day in the near future he will come with Simon on a full blown US tour...or at least selected cities, but that would be unfair to those who couldn't make it out to whatever cities were chosen. I love shpongle (simon and raja) but I seriously can't express my love for Simon, GAWD dammit
Yah I saw him last year on 2ci with the tribal dancers, he spun at a small club/bar. I enjoyed it thoroughly and I think 2ci was the best 2cx for the environment, but much like you I saw some people I could tell were rolling and had moments where I wish I was. That setup for this tour looks amazing! From what I've heard, Supposedly next year or the year after the full band is playing in SF.
From what I've heard, he generally doesn't travel that much at all. I imagine it's because of his age and it's hard on his body to travel around so frequently. Intensive traveling by hopping on a bus or airplane and going from one motel to the next can be pretty stressful. This is what some folks at the concert told me, at least. I can't verify this for fact, but it seems to make sense. That must be the reason you mostly see Simon mixing alone as he goes on tour.
OK, thanks. So far I haven't wanted to take a 2nd 1/2 dose. Seems like if it extended the roll by half, say 7.5 hours vs. 5 for one dose it would be a great idea.
