19 Reasons why the Federal Reserve is at the heart of our economic problems

Discussion in 'Politics' started by broony, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. Individual

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    But humans are a member of the animal kingdom, and we happen to reside on the branch along with other members of the primate class. You should observe the monkeys that live on my property some time, and perhaps you would feel differently.
     
  2. midgardsun

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    youre right, some animals which are forced to live under human insanity can also develop syndroms of insanity f.e. specially dogs
     
  3. tehuti

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    I think you maybe missing my point. I have nothing against animals. yes humans are insane. yes "humans" do fall into that category, but humans are a stepping stone up towards something more and humans have capabilities that most animals do not posses. whenever humans do not use those capabilities they fall back into being only an animal only being in existence for physical stimulation clogging the flow of energy and de-evolving. and on that level you remain stuck like living stone and your evolutionary process deteriorates and the dna becomes useless information. on that level you don't get to control the decision making of the planet because you are not conscious enough to do so...I love monkeys, cute little guys. would never do anything to hurt one. but if that monkey runs for a political office, tries to run a business, or become responsible for lives of billions, that may not be a good idea...
     
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    there are all sorts of animals. some are loving some are cruel. because nature is both loving and cruel...animals, as is humans are reflections of their "environment", which is the energy state. energy state is intention, desire and expectation. since the average person's desire's, expectation, and intention is not world peace, first, then the actions, i.e. patterns, are not as such...
     
  5. midgardsun

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    yes but if humans try to build an empire that has always resulted in a greater catastrophy than animals would be able to set up
     
  6. Individual

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    Without money how would we trade with one another? How easy might it be to round up and transport 7-8 tons of chickens to purchase a new car? Or are you proposing that we go back to nothing but existing and eating? Money enables us to carry out trade easily with one another. The problem today is that what we use for money has no real value, and what little value it has diminishes over time, purposely.
    Who am I to criticize your brother? He obviously knows you better than I. I do agree that a good portion, and growing number of the masses are indeed irresponsible, and look for government to assume responsibility for them by shifting it to the more responsible members of the society.
     
  7. Individual

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    What's all this to do with the Federal Reserve?
     
  8. tehuti

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    money, ownership, that is all in the less coherent spectrum of light. if someone owns something it means that someone else has less and sharing is not happening. ownership creates scarcity, which creates theft. that is one trait that is harmonious among most animals, you never see a squirrel climb into a tree and say I own it or pull out a claim to it. he uses it and then moves on and makes room for all the other animals if they choose to live their and use it too. this is part of the usufruct and charitable trust system the world is under. but the people do not understand it nor how it works and keep trying to claim ownership as pirates, privateers and or captors...
     
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    everything...the federal reserve is charity, a trust and a clearinghouse and the reason it is here is because of the national debt in the first. without understanding trusts and legalese you have no clue what is actually happening...
     
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    because we have not evolved fully into higher consciousness yet to integrate all spectrum of light, i.e. integating all useful patterns. always is a generalization because in the realm of infinity, any situation is possible whenever you choose it. people suck because there intentions, desires and expectations suck...
     
  11. broony

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    tehuit - consolidate your posts please.
     
  12. tehuti

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    cool my bad..
     
  13. broony

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    Honest argument..........................though Im sure it was made during Pharoh Ramses day also and to no avail. People just dont aculumate wealth to give it away. The bequests of the wealthy go to musems, universities, even land bequested for public use
     
  15. Individual

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    Even assuming that paradise could be achieved if everyone had the equivalent of the U.S. minimum wage, or about $16,000 of annual income, finding that 'one' freakin family' with about $100 trillion could be quite a feat, not to mention the fact that you would have to find a 'second freakin family' to fund paradise for a second year, and then another and another and so on. But this is what becomes of interspersing facts with fantasy. Actually the wealthiest 10% of the worlds population, together would be unable combining their wealth to create anything resembling paradise for but a very brief moment.
     
  16. broony

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    We will never have balance in a monetary system. We never have, its always been the people vs government controlled by banks. Its been this way since the 1600's in England when the Rothchilds first took over the central bank before coming to America to control the new nation.

    The difference in our time is that we have new technology to put everyone on equal holdings. We have magnetic technology to have trains mover over 3000 and 4000 mph, eliminating air travel all together on earth. We have ways to produce all greens, veggies, fruits, you name it, where access is free, no money is required. Same goes for housing, the technology is here. Though the top dogs give us no support and don't want the times changed because they don't want to give up their thrown so to say. If America as well as the United Kingdom, even Canada plays a huge role, if informed about the corruption the federal bank has on the people, everything would change. Threads like this i hope people send along for that very reason.

    We have one benefit now that no one has had before us, the internet. Its the peoples biggest tool right now, before it becomes over-censored.

    As more people are informed to stay away from ALL interest charging, loan borrowing, ways the banks will lose billions. If the countries STOPPED buying shit they don't need and stay away from all interest loan scamming ways, a lot would change.

    The people simply are not informed. Read my quote in my sig by henry ford.
     
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    the problem I always see is ppl are too comfortable to protest whats happening. as more power and influence is claimed by elites, we get handed more convieneces.

    I hear ppl complain all the time, I try telling them something, and their response isn't to run out of the house and do something about.
     
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    plus most ppl try keeping their lives to simple to even click on a thread like this.
     
  19. Piney

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    But What About Dorothy ?


    Indeed,,,,,,,the intelecutal fulcrum upon which the moral of the story rides!

    These words were spoken by Scarecrow (agricultural sector) to The Wizzard after he had handed out his trinkets to the three petitioners.
    :gift:

    Scarecrow / Argiculture, got his diploma; signifying encouragement to use scientific farming methods so as not to repeat a "Grapes of Wrath" scene

    Tin Man / Industry, got his heart. Industry was frozen in labor lock-out and strikes and needed to get a heart. The filmakers gave him an axe instead of a collectivest hammer.

    Lion/ Finance & stocks, was basicly told to grow a pair, and to start lending and investing and un-freezing all that capital. creating jobs, financing start-ups and such

    But What About Dorothy?

    Can big goverment and The Fed be any help to family and home? Aparently not according to the moral of the story, theres no place like home. There is no: "it takes a village" in The Wizard of Oz.

    But what about the story of this thread?

    Yeah back to Broomys Thread

    Seems those bashing The Fed are paleo-conservatives seeking small goverment perhaps like at the time of Abraham Lincoln. as wa bluska pointed out in #12......is this the angle?

    Or perhaps conspiracy minded who don't like the Man behind the curtian pulling his lever.

    Do we need a Federal Reserve Bank Board of Govenors to manage this huge edifice we have created called The United States Goverment?

    Well, if we don't like The Fed, how do we feel about say: The Dept. of Agriculture, or The Dept. of Education? Never mind Defense. Does all of the money moved around by these self-dealers do the same thing that The Fed does?

    Is this thread about smaller goverment in general ? or do you wish to extract only one aspect, leaving the rest of the unwieldy mess in place?


    :confused:
     
  20. Individual

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    I think this thread began with the intent of a closer examination of the Federal Reserve and its effect the economy, incomes, debts, and lives. Just looking at a graph of the purchasing power of the U.S. currency prior to becoming a sovereign nation until current with attention to the periods pre and post Fed should raise some questions of who benefits most from the actions of the Fed.

    Smaller government is another topic deserving of attention, but government existed before the creation of the Fed, and will continue to exist with or without the Fed.
     

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