Quick question about extract.

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by RussianRocky, Dec 8, 2004.

  1. RussianRocky

    RussianRocky Member

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    Sorry if this question has been answered a million times...

    I got leaves and 20x extract, so how would I go about smoking it? Should I mix 1 part of extract and 20 part leaves and then smoke it in a pipe? or should I just smoke the extract in a weed pipe? The extract is very fine so it would just fall in the weed pipe... what are your suggestions? I could make a bong, but it will take time and it will be crappy.
     
  2. Foppful

    Foppful Member

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    Put some leaves in the bowl to prevent the extract from falling through. Then, take the tiniest pinch of extract and put it in. Remember, a very small hit of 10x can put you into a full blown experience in a different dimension. Be VERY careful. Experiment by putting a tiny bit in at first, and then increase the dosage if necessary. 20x is scary stuff... use extreme caution. If you get the right amount, it'll be wonderful, but too much can be... TOO MUCH.
    Smoke it in a pipe. Keep the flame on. Peace, be careful.
     
  3. RussianRocky

    RussianRocky Member

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    oh boy, now I will have to debate myself how much to put in... thanks for the reply though.
     
  4. RussianRocky

    RussianRocky Member

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    How much do you suggest on about .5-.75g of leaves?
     
  5. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    You can mix it however which way you want ... most people prefer a 5x or 10x extract, and TAKE CARE if you smoke 20x extract, because too much would give you a frightful experience. You really want to measure out your dosages before you smoke (if smoking 20x, a powerful dose is approximately a pinch; that's far less than a "bowl," and since bowls vary in size, you shouldn't use them to measure salvia).

    But, since you (like everyone else, including me) are probably going to eye it up anyway ... at least start on a small dose and work your way up. Theoretically, you could have at least 15 powerful experiences (if not more) on a gram of 20x. I always get around 4 to 5 decently-strong experiences out of a gram of 5x extract myself.

    This is, of course, assuming you're smoking it right. Use a pipe or bong (it is HIGHLY recommended that you have a water device, like a bubbler or a bong), and use a powerful lighter (if you have a torch-lighter, that works the best). When smoking, you have to hold the flame on the bowl the ENTIRE time you are taking a hit, especially if you're using a standard cigarette lighter, and once you have the hit in your lungs, you need to keep it there for 20 to 30 seconds (that's 2 to 3 times as long as most people hold a marijuana hit in for, to compare).

    If you do that, you can probably get a LOT out of a very small amount of salvia. But if you try to smoke it like marijuana, or you try to smoke it from a joint, you are going to waste 9/10ths of the salvia, or possibly even more than that (which may still be strong enough to give you a powerful experience, if you are using a lot of 20x, but 5x and weaker extracts/leaves will at best just give you a small high).

    ... anyway ...

    Use a screen; that's my best advise to you. Most people just take a nugget of weed and pack it into a pipe without using a screen, and while that works for weed, it won't work for salvia. Use a screen, even if you have to make it out of foil (just get a needle and poke 20-30 holes in a small piece of aluminum foil; I have heard tin foil is bad for your lungs, so I'd advise you to avoid it).

    You can try putting the extract on a leaf, but since you really need to hold the lighter over the salvia the entire time, it's just going to burn fast and probably get sucked through ... so it's not a really great idea. Just go and buy a pack of screens at a headshop (or maybe gas station?), they're cheap and extremely useful.
     
  6. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Now that I think about it, Foppful reminded me to say this:

    Apparently, since salvia comes on so quickly (within a minute), and considering that many experienced psychonauts consider it to be one of the most powerful psychoactives known ... a LOT of people get scared during the onset.

    Always use a sitter (especially if using 20x extract; you don't need to worry much if you just smoke the straight leaves though).

    Don't be embarrassed if you do things uncontrollably. Many people laugh hysterically and are unable to stop, some people walk around without realizing it or without trying ... I've yelled at my friend at the top of my voice in anger, without wanting to, and I've had people stand up and come up to within 2 inches of my face and look at me (without realizing it).

    Just make sure you have a sitter who realizies how powerful it is, and who won't try to touch you or move you around during the experience. Go somewhere private (dorm room or woods or something) and move any sharp objects to a safe location.

    Don't drive. =P Stay away from knives and guns, and you know the rest.

    But something I've noticed is very important: Just let yourself go! And remember, it'll all be over in 30 minutes to an hour. =) The key to having a good trip is being in a happy state of mind and not getting scared of how powerful salvia is. Just relax your body and your mind, and have fun!

    Good luck, friend. =)
     
  7. redgreenvines

    redgreenvines Member

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    i don't mix it I use a tiny pipe and for 20 I would take less than 1/50th of a gram and smoke it in one strong inhallation with a regular lighter.
    hold 20 seconds
    write everything down.
     
  8. RussianRocky

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    Thanks a lot all... I will take all your suggestions in acount.
     
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