20 hour trip?

Some friends of mine bought some 'acid' recently and they were still going 20 + hours later... All of them... I don't think anyone had more than 2 tabs, maybe some MDMA as well, but fuck me, 20 hours?! My longest trips have been about 12 hours on some STRONG stuff (couldn't see where I was putting my feet when walking, walls turned to sludge, no depth perception etc etc), so I'm wondering if this was really cid, or some RC passed off as cid?

Thoughts please!

 

It was RC passed as acid.

 

This is my thinking... Think I'll give this batch a miss...

 

Personally i dont agree ive had experiences that lasted this time frame and more. Depends on your dosage and the quality of your stuff.

 

At the 15 hour mark were they all still just high and seeing morphing textures here and there, or were they still in the deep into the trip?

If it the first one then it could of just been really strong acid, if its the latter then it was most likely an RC (DoX?).

 

Apparently it was a bit less intense, but they were still tripping pretty hard at the 15 hr mark, and not one of them got any sleep until after the 20 hr mark...

 

LSD prob. RC blotter or dox whatever will keep you up for days

 

Tough call . . . the lack of sleep doesn't prove much, I was up 24 hours on 15 hits, from residual stimulation (the main trip was only ~7 hours). 15 hours is not THAT much longer than the 8-12 range commonly discussed, certainly a close outlier. I agree with pr0ne, if they took 2 hits of DOx they'd be up for 2-3 days. This sounds like strong LSD. You can mostly tell from the effects though; DOx is not a damn thing like LSD at all. You're not more likely to mistake DOx for LSD than mushrooms for LSD.

 

I don't think that's necessarily true. It's possible to get sleep at 20 hour mark if it was DOC...even with higher doses...but higher the dose there's more chance you'll wake up tripping :2thumbsup:. I didn't have much problems sleeping at about 20h mark with two 1.1mg DOC blotters. At that dose I found DOC was still gentle and relaxing most of the time (aaaaaaaaaaa now I want some, didn't took any since summer) and main trip lasts more 12 - 15h but you can feel it for much, much longer whit higher doses.

Also have in mind that DOx, bromo-DF, 5-meo-AMT and similar are generally dose pretty low on blotters to prevent overdoses and make dosage easier. As 1.1mg of DOC to 2.2mg of DOC is big difference...double that dose and you'll trip fucking long and strong.

But I'm talking about DOC. I believe it produces shortest trip of all common DOx chemicals.

And 15 hours from 2 hits of LSD (even if they where very strong) .... I don't think so.. As you say even at 15 hits main trip was only about 7h.

It's not weird to still have some visuals and feel a bit hazy and feel some body effects quite long after trip especially if you take it at night so you have combination of some residual effects, tiredness and you're still under impression from what you have experienced if it was strong trip. But that's not really tripping.

I'm still pretty convinced if they REALLY tripped at 15h mark, especially if it wasn't their first strong trip, it's unlikely it was acid.

But as Mr. Writer says it's not more likely to mistake DOx for LSD than mushrooms so you're friends should just research a bit.

 

Yes. I have had acid more then one time that gave me strong effects for near 20 hours, so it's definitely possible. But I tend to take ample doses of Lucy when she is around.

 

Echoing force of acid...
More than likely RC passed off as LSD.

I'll narrow it down between the Dox's as I know very little of other chems on Blotters...

-So i'll eliminate DOB as it has widespread scheduling, seems to be the longest acting of them, at least for it's potency.
-I'll go with Force of Acid and Writer's comments regarding DOC not being very LSD like so I'll eliminate that one.

DOM: From what i've read this seems to be the most similar to LSD and a Pikhal entry pretty much has your duration of action spot on.

Doi: I have experience with this compound, the first time I did it I was unsuspecting like your friends were and I took 3 hits, so I had no clue what it was. I'd say with that in mind it's fairly similar to LSD, certainly much closer than Mushrooms are to LSD. I'd say it's about as close as 2ct7/2ce is to LSD without the nausea of 2ct7 and without the bodyload of 2ce. So it's somewhat close but not quite as involved mentally and it's more sharp than LSD visually.

Reiterating what Force of Acid said, Dox are dosed usually somewhat low and 2 tabs is probably not going to keep most people up beyond 24 hours. Either of those Pikhal entries could definitely be 2-3 blotters worth of material.

 

I don't think a 20 hour acid trip is unheard of. It depends on your set and setting and how much weed you smoke. I had a similarish thing last night. I wouldn't worry about it too much as long as you had a good experience.

 

20 hours off 1-2 hits of LSD sounds unlikely. Not even 3 hits of Avatars last that long and they are probably the strongest blotters on the market right now, next to Mayan Calendars at least. Residual effects like objects breathing, maybe, but the headspace and real trip factor should be pretty much gone by that point.

 

It's possible the idea that the higher the dose, the longer the trip, is just a myth. Hofmann himself said in his book "My problem child" that an lsd trip lasts no longer than 12 hrs.

http://www.maps.org/books/mpc/chapter5.html#4

 

I think my longest ever trip is 4 hours long :L But I love long journeys so I think I'd like to go on a 20 hour journey :') I find them really relaxing.

 

I had three avatars a couple months ago and I was for sure tripping after 16 hours, but not really hard after about 14. I couldn't sleep and could see very small sparkles and hear mild auditory hallucinations until 20 hours.

 

Thanks. That kind of reiterates exactly what I am saying. 10-12 hour frame is usual with a period of afterglow up to 8 or so hours. you are still pretty much back in reality by the 12 hour point. Effects don't seem to be completely worn off until a good rest for most people.

 

I took a dalai lama at the acid monkey rave in London and i was tripping for 24 hours, those tabs have so much acid on it, its like biting into a sponge full of water

 

You do know your stuff. I think many mistake an afterglow for trip effects. The avatars are so powerful that off of three tabs you are getting more than 500ug. Obviously the afterglow after that is going to be fairly intense, to the point where it almost feels like mild tripping. Some changes in visual perception are just part of an intense afterglow.

So next time you tell people you 'tripped' for 20 hours and question whether or not it was actually lsd-25 please make sure you can differentiate between a trip and an afterglow.

 

Is it possible duration was longer cuz of low purity? So residual effects and stimulation lasted longer. I heard Avatars are made from not very pure acid.