"Heroin" Powdered / Tar,

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by E-dubble, May 16, 2011.

  1. E-dubble

    E-dubble Member

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    I basically would like to know which is the more common type out of the two and which is best. I live in Idaho and dont know what we have up here. I am wanting to try some H, but will not IV. I would like to know what is the reommended way for a non-needle user; snorting, plugging ect.. And also, can tar heroin be turned into a snortable drug?

    Thanks homies,

    E-dubble
     
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    snort , or place under tongue.. dont try snorting a whole stamp bag when you have never done it before. Chances are it may kill you.. cut the bag up in tiny little lines, do some wait, do some wait..
     
  3. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Tar is not snortable, and is generally (more) dirty (more) dangerous (more) cut bullshit.

    You may find either, depending which direction it's coming to you from.

    Are you already a heavy opiate user? usually heroin comes to YOU, when your habit is unsupportable because of the cost of prescription opiates. If you're stupid enough to take opiates for any reason other than dehibilitating pain, at least be LESS stupid, and start with the (more) safe properly dosed pure prescription drugs.

    I call opiate users stupid while having played with some myself. But only on several occasions, and as of now, years ago. Jumping into heroin likely means that you'll be a junkie in a matter of weeks.
     
  4. TokeTrip

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    Tar is better than most powder anywhere except California, Seattle, and parts of Arizona/Vegas/New Mexico. In Ohio, Minnesota, Chicago, Denver, OKC, etc., it tends to be much purer (and cheaper) than virtually all powder everywhere. Fire tar is more common than fire powder, and is always cheaper.

    If the OP tells me where you are located, I can specify my remarks.

    To turn tar into powder, there are two methods; the common (and shitty) method is to freeze the tar (inside a bag, or it will become wet) and crush and mix with a dry powder. The better way is to dissolve it in a small amount opf water (think 1.5mL per gram); hot water; once it is all dissolved, and still hot, add little matchheads of baking soda, one at a time, with stirring and continued heating. Wait until bubbling/fizzing stops after each matchhead, and repeat until the fizzing is very slow after the most recent matchhead (depending on the tar, anywhere from 4-10 matchheads are necessary per gram). A bunch of shit will come out of it, depending on the cut. If you have pH strips, stop adding baking soda around pH 6.5ish. Remove the insoluble cut, and allow the liquid to evaporate in a well ventilated and somewhat dry location. Scrap the remainder (not the cut that you removed, and once the water has evaporated). Sniff.
     
  5. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    I completely agree with everything you said, except lumping all opioid-users into the 'stupid' category.

    I am sure you know my story by now (if not read my blog here), and I turned to opioids, and have handled them responsibly. I would not call myself stupid at all. However, you are correct that most non-pain management users are stupid. But, don't overgeneralize!

    Good advice otherwise. You are right. He would turn into a junkie in weeks.
     
  6. blitz7341

    blitz7341 Banned

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    ive had alot of powder(nj and penn area), and alot of tar(texas). tar has always been better IME. living in texas tar is usually whats around, so thats what i will adress. you can convert it into a powder the way toketrip described, or you can simply dissolve the tar in just a few drops of water(use just enough water so it can go into solution, no more) then sprinkle on any powder(this can be anything, common things used around here are diphenhydramine, cafeine, vitamin b-12 etc. somtimes even other Rx drugs like OC or xanax). the powder will soak up the water and the H and wuala: powder heroin. however this is time consuming and i dont like to further cut my H just so it can be a powder.

    You said you want to stay away from shooting, i commend you for that. H stops being fun real fast IME once you go for the needle. That being said, here is my recomended way to do tar:
    1. Put the tar into a spoon as you would if you were going to shoot it.
    2. Add a little hot water. (hot water from the tap works fine, you dont want it boiling or anything)
    3. Work the tar around in the water to help it dissolve. (i use a piece of a plastic straw for this, but you could use pretty much anything)
    4. once the tar is fully dissolved in the water, bring the spoon up to your nostril and snort the heroin solution. do a little bit at a time untill you get the hang of it. if you try to snort the entire spoonful at once chances are some of it will go down the back of your throat and/or drip back out rather than coating the mucous membranes in your nose/sinuses.
    5. (optional but effective) tilt your head down toward the floor to let gravity guide the solution into you sinuses.
    6. Repeat steps 1-5 until satisfied.

    I have converted tar into powder to snort, i have shot it up(IV and rectal), ive smoked it, and ive snorted the liquid(heroin in water) as described above. Snorting the liquid(aka monkey water) has become my favorite way to do tar. its convienient, easy, and effective. i highly recommend trying it to anyone who does or is going to do tar.

    good luck and be safe.
    -Blitz
     
  7. Ganjabeliever

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    I've heard tar has a lot of 3/6-MAM in it which makes it more euphoric... Just sayin...
     
  8. ScottDK420

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    Powder heroin in places like Nj,NYC,Chicago,etc. are generally much higher in purity than any tar can be. Average purity in NJ of street bags seized are 80-90% pure, with some lower into the 70%+ range and a bag of high puirty powder sells for $8 each there, and a gram is less than $100 and buying "raw" in 5 grams or more you can get 90%+ pure avg. powder dope in NJ,etc..Most tar is 60-70% at the most. The reason tar seems better to many people is the 6-MAM ,which is stronger by a little than heroin, the 3-MAM is about as potent as morphine which is of course much less potent than heroin. The heroin in tar plus the 6-MAM left over from the incomplete heroin production used by most Mexican heroin cartels makes the tar seem more, noddy and euphoric, mainly becasue of the presence of the 6-MAM and heroin together. Most tar though is cut with variuos things from shoe polish to sugar,caffeine,etc..and is not as "clean" as powder heroin of high quality, which will disolve in cool or room temprature water in a spoon without heating it, only some stirring is needed, plus tar tend to cause veins to harden at a very higher and quicker rate than injecting good to fire powder.
     
  9. BottleFED

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    WOOHOO, plus 1 for ETK, spot on.....!
     
  10. RooRshack

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    Well, if you want a permanent "protective coating" of shoe polish and horse shit in your nose, this sounds like an awesome idea.

    Or you could just go get some perscription morphine, which is really not expensive or hard to find, and which feels exactly the same as heroin, aside from being half as potent by weight. (Of course, not the same to junkies who KNOW it's morphine and not heroin, and don't get their full heroin ritual cooking in. That's a good part of the addiction. But double blind em, and they'll swear it's heroin)
     
  11. E-dubble

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    Get out of my threads RooRshack. Your a dumbass. And a gullible prick. Seriously though stop following my threads bro
     
  12. E-dubble

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    And if you reall think that out of all things a dealer is gunna go buy shoe polish to cut his dope.. Haha your a damn retard
     
  13. blitz7341

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    RooR dont get me wrong pharmacutical morphine is just dandy(especially plugged lol). but i havnt seen that around here in almost 3 years, and its not from a lack of trying. now i doubt i have ever had shoe polish in my tar, it seems you would notice something like that. but even if that was the case, better it up your nose than in your veins no?
     
  14. ScottDK420

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    Actually tar has been cut with shoe polish, sugars, variuos nasty things before!! Thats no bullshit, I know firsthand of people in Cali. getting tar that was cut with a little bit of black show polish..Not your average cut for tar, but it has happened,more than people would like to think, usually tar is cut with powdered sugar or something,it (the cuts) being heated to a liquid or semi liquid as is the tar, the two are mixed together, put into a freezer to harden up and form a chunk,then taken out and sold..
     

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