Why's it illegal?

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by deram_scholzara, Dec 7, 2004.

  1. deram_scholzara

    deram_scholzara Member

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    I mean...What's the reason tha tsociety looks down on pot smoking so much? It's not like they did it out of spite...they had to have a reason, and obviously the majority of people seemed to want it that way, I just want to know why...
     
  2. bigT

    bigT Member

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    Didn't you know . . . . Pot makes you go insane!

    !!!!REEFER MADNESS!!!!
    *dramatic music plays*
     
  3. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    It's illegal because the government couldn't tax private growers if they were to legalize it.
     
  4. DSPSYSSTS

    DSPSYSSTS Member

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    "Society" looks down on law breakers, it makes them feel better about themselves and they are programmed that way. Its human nature to look up to people and look down on people and look level at people.

    Marijuana is illegal because it threatens the fabric of society by encouraging perception in an alternative manner. There are also political and economic reasons for it being historically outlawed....read the book at this link if you can be bothered..

    http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html
     
  5. whispers

    whispers sweet and sour

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    this has been asked and answered like a dozen times already
     
  6. TheMagicalMushy

    TheMagicalMushy Senior Member

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    I hate when people say this, its so wrong, first off no one would barely grow. It would probably be a small more amount than they do now. Most people would rather go to a cafe and pick up an 1/8th than buy 500 dollars in lights etc to grow some weed. This whole theory is outright stupid and I hate when people say it. Im not attacking or flaming YOU im saying the whole theory is just dumb

    There are a few things published on why it was illegalized in the first place, it has to do with the textile industry mainly.
     
  7. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    First of all, these questions can be answered SOOO much more effectively by doing a google search. We here on the boards have some info, but why not just look and get better info from sites devoted to it?

    That said, the paper industry had a lot to do with it because a machine had just been invented that would make hemp, in decline as a crop since around the 1860s, more economical to grow because it would make the labor intensive processing of hemp much faster. This translates to 4 times as much paper produced per acre than can be made with wood pulp. It's also more productive, stronger, and warmer a fiber than cotton.

    Another big reason was racism. Mexican migrant workers and blacks (especially in the port cities, as well as jazz clubs) were the main people using the plant as a drug, and this threatened white society. Or maybe it was just another way to screw these minorities.

    check out http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html for Jack Herer's book The Emperor Wears No Clothes. The whole book is online, and talks a lot about this. Chapter 11, on the war of 1812, was especially interesting, because it puts that whole war in perspective (i never understood the whole thing until I read that).
     
  8. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    I've studied the matter for 30 years, and I believe that this is exactly the reason.

    Legalizing weed would not eliminate the marijuana underground.

    TheMagicalMushy,

    you haven't thought it through. You lack experience with the blackmarket.

    Guys like me would grow 10 lbs of un-registered weed and sell to our friends- better buds than a big company could produce commercially, and at a better price.
     
  9. McJesus

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    I disagree. Too much of a bureacracy involved with the drug war. Think of all the people that'd be outta jobs if weed was legal. Sure, there'd be other drugs to worry about but they certainly wouldn't need the same manpower. But the others are right, this has been discussed to hell and back.
     
  10. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    It definently would. The cost would lower too much for it to be profitable for (illegal) drug dealers
    The only reason marijuana is illegal is because of stupid assholes that never even tried it calling it a gateway drug.
     
  11. jay

    jay Member

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    Do you see many ppl growing their own tobacco?, No of course not its not worth the hassel, if weeb was legal not many would grow their own. And as for the jobs it would elminate, it would make much more in the growing and processing buissniss, and all the money they could make off taxes to help fight other drugs, or go to public school funding, Or even fight terrorism, As adds have said if you buy weed you are funding terrorist, well change that now if you buy weeb your fighting terrorism
    So be patrioict and smoke weed!
     
  12. randy

    randy Member

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    whys it illegal ?

    in the states,

    cuz of laws

    :/
     
  13. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    You have a point, but you also don't. You're right not many people grow tobacco, but the difference is that it's a very labor intensive plant, as well as needing a lot of fertilizer and pesticide. Marijuana is a weed, you could toss some seeds outside and a few months later have some quality bud. Of course, it'd be better if you actually tended to the plant, and started off with good seeds.

    So, depending on what the legalization looked like, some people would still grow weed; moreso if the government only allows really cheap bad weed, or if the marijuana companies try giving us bud that is equivalent to the tobacco we get from the tobacco companies. That is to say, shitty bud. If that happened there'd still be plenty of growers.
     
  14. Al13n

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    see this topic alot but whether its illegal or not, I will continue to smoke the herb.
     
  15. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    You guys are all wrong- except that there is some merit to the idea of mataining the status-quo.
    But legalizing weed would not be enough to substatially dismantle the anti-drug war army.

    As to cheaper-you know nothing of business. I can grow weed for for a few dollars a pound outside. No taxes, no wages, no insurance. No marketing cost .Beat that.

    And refering to tobbacco is also niave.
    Ever grow tobbacco? I have. It's an ass load harder than growing weed, and it cannot be smoked without extensive processing. it's a full time job, just to supply one person. If you don't believe me, I'll send you some tobbacco seeds.

    That goes for beer, too. If one of you spent all your time making beer, you couldn't supply my house with a home brew.
     
  16. callinghome

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    http://www.friendlystranger.com/info/reefer.htm

    This explains all about why it became illegal. The root reason was that propaganda was started by those who used hemp to make other trhings and smoking it was taking away resources for that industry. Anyways, I think that's what I caught from the link above. Happy smokin
     
  17. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    Why it became illegal, and why it remains illegal now, are two seperate questions with two seperate answers.
     
  18. EddieV1984

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    The whole marijuana taxing issue is bullshit. This theory only concerns the theraputic/recreational uses. People forget the other thousands of uses the marijuana plant has. Most people wont grow their own weed for their own hemp fibers. People act like marijuana is only used for one thing. That is the fatal flaw. Each one of those could be taxed at several different points.

    Secondly, it is illegal today because in order for it to be legalized, that would mean that the government would have to go back on what its said for 70 years. The switch from illegalization to legalization could take place with some careful tactfullness.
     
  19. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    The hemp thing is bullshit.

    Ever wear a sand paper-er, I mean, Hemp suit?

    Or use a hemp rope for climbing?

    Or ate Mj flower?

    I have, and they all suck by comparison.
     
  20. Inavacuum

    Inavacuum Senior Member

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    Watch the movie "GRASS". It tells all about marijuana'ss history in the states. Main reason is the goedrnment claimed it'd get you addicted to heroin because its a "gateway dug". But seriously do a google search man.
     
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