Nateman's -rep message to me reads: "yeah chemicals are innocent..keeping telling your self that." Okay buddy, what are you saying, that chemicals are malicious, scheming beings, plotting against people? You don't think that it's the drug users choice? They're innocent, because they can NOT be guilty, because they can't DO anything. They're not sentient. Sounds like paranoid schizophrenia to me, personifying chemicals and shit.... Spouting that kind of stupidity here will get you torn apart, why don't you go find a site for ignorant people like yourself. There's lots of them, where people use all kinds of scare tactics and circular reasoning. You'd like it.
Got another rough k story from yesterday, was my mates bday and he had a 1/2 litre cooked up in a pan (25grams) he gave a girl a line and she threw up in the pan... he then proceeded to try n cook the sick out and started sniffing the k complaining it tasted of sick... WRONG UN!!!!!!
Wow. That's sounds way rough...^^ and smack will do way more damage then meth could ever dream of doing.
For me, injecting ketamine was the ultimate so far, in terms of an experience that completely shifts me out of anything I know, understand or intuit. You pretty much go straight through the k hole and into k land, and it is a place I cannot really begin to describe. There is none of the drunkeness, falling stuttery vision etc etc that snorting/ingesting it gives you. For the entire time you are dwelling within this land, you can actually believe you are walking through fractal mazes, or exploring corridors and tunnels of checkered colours which fade away in perspective, or swimming in clouds while animated masquerade cartoon characters poke their heads through to greet you, and not even remember you are on the drug!! It can take you to a place so far from any paradigm of a 'normal' or subjective understanding of yourself and what is 'real', and thoughts and feelings almost cease to exist. When you finally begin to phase back into yourself, and begin to take in what is around you (sounds especially, then sights as your 'normal' vision returns), you realise just how far gone you were. You also realise (and this was the big one for me) that you were sitting right in the same place, same position, same room, same city, that you were in when the needle came out of your arm, which can be somewhat disorientating for a few secs, as you have just been wandering around in a place/dimension that you had completely accepted as real.... Man, its just, so hard to explain.... I have only ever injected it twice in my life (and only snorted it a few times before that). All these times were from an immpecable source and the quality was some of the highest. For injecting it I made sure I did it with a friend, who like me, had a long history of experience with drugs. We converted it to powder form and both injected 1/2 a gram each. After taking it, the effects lasted about 30 mins (as I have described above). I cannot comment on the comedown. Please make sure (depending on what type/quality you get) that you have someone there to inject it for you, as if you are not confident that you can inject yourself effeciently and fast (which I wasnt at that time) then it could be rather messy and dangerous, as you barely have time to get the needle out before the shift happens....and it happens immediately. Good luck, be safe, always use a wheel filter!! EDIT: I do not ever condone the use of needles, but nor will I lie about it. If you have not started using them, please dont, ever. If you do finally feel like you want to go ahead and inject anything, make sure you do some research and ask others who have solid experience with the substance you wish to take. Also get as much info as possible about how to inject, and even have an experienced person to aid you.
Your experiences sound pretty profound but some of your information sounds dubious, which is ironic with the disclaimer at the end. 500 mgs is an extremely high dose to inject, I never went above 200 mgs with Im injection. Without Tolerance 125 mgs IM injection was enough to put me in a K hole and was about the equivalent of a 300 mgs nasal dose, 70 mgs IV injection put me in a k hole. On top of that, I'm not sure why you would convert it to powder for injection So perhaps you can clarify some points, but I'm guessing that either your ketamine was not of as high quality as you think, or you missed the muscle or something, but it's certainly not good to recommend to inject anywhere near that much.
Really? No one ever had collapsed veins? No hepatitis / AIDs / (insert nasty infection here)??? No heavily damaged lungs from smoking off foil? No depressed immune system leading to pneumonia or liver problems? Shit, if that's the case, I might go grab a bag of brown this afternoon, I have some cash and health insurance LOL TBH I would take K again, but I would never even consider taking H, partly because I never want to IV any drugs, and partly because I think smack will be too nice, too cosy, and drag me under, much as it does with most people who use it, where as with K, most people who use it have it every now and then, with little / no impact on their life. Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrggggghhhh! That's fucking gross! Yeah me too... Last week end lol, it was pretty good fun after a mouth full of MDMA
So someone off another forum i know who's a long term k abuser has now started injecting it. this is the person who at one point was doing 7g a day and 12.5g a day at weekends.
Still trying to get off the stuff P0ly? I think about you here and there and hope you are doing well. Addiction is hard shit to deal with. Been there done that twice. Once with Coke and once with heavy Opiates. Getting over first few days on Opie was the worst thing I have ever felt. But I got better and I NEVER will go down that road again. I will do a Roxi here and there but I always have in the back of my mind the misery of that withdrawal. It's nice that I have money now and don't have to fiend over something all day at work then come home and act like a crack head till we got the shit. It consumed my life worse than Cocaine.
I know a guy who injects it... Fuck, I really think I would hate such an intense K experience tbh... Makes me thankful that I am just a habitual pot head... That I can live with...
doing it here n there but thankfully learnt my lesson from the last cramp not to get ill like that again. am trying to completely cut it out as it still makes me more unhealthy and tired but it's so hard when everyones on it and it's so cheap. luckily it's fairly easy to just stop doing it, in fact after you do quite a bit you want to stop as it just makes you more n more ill.
Glad to hear, p0ly. I know it sucks when its so easiliy avaliable. Keep your head up and will power strong. Ill keep you in my thoughts and send good vibes your way.
(Without endorsing IV opioids!!!), most of the negatives you note are side-effects of prohibition and surreptitious, expensive, and stressed use - except that for too many people they really are "too nice, too cosy, and drag me under."
I think that's the crux of the matter with opiates, which is why I have avoided ever taking them (although I have had some phases with benzos)... I bet if it was legal, people would still share needles etc, but I also agree that prohibition makes conditions worse for people on the whole, but if legalisation ever did happen (*dreams*) I still believe Opiates should be STRICTLY controlled, and not available to the general public, as that could potentially be very damaging to society... ANY WAY, I'm glad you're getting off the K, that shit can play havoc with your insides... Luckily I have never really got into it in a big way, but my GF has a crap sense of smell from years of use...
So fast forward to late 2013 i was still using Ketamine pretty badly and my last use up with drugs was 8 months ago... I managed to go about 30 grams of k to myself mixed with opiates, mdma, xanax, alcohol, weed, mushrooms.... I lost 5 days and was constantly using through blackout.. Ended up overdosing soon after on opiates and benzos. I've now been 8 months totally clean from drink and drugs and cigs. My bladder and stomach has been somewhat damaged and it seems to be slowly repairing but not as fast as i'd like. I have to piss a whole lot even 8 months off the everything. anyway here's to sobriety! HOORAY
well one thing to do is to shnork up the drips and spit them out. The K in the stomach really leads to the cramps and the bladder problems more than anything. But yeah, ketamine has turned into a big problem for a lot of my friends. It's really not that addictive a substance when compared to the big bad ones, but, for those who really want something that will totally bring them out of their reality for a short time, it can be a hard one. The only real way around k addiction is to make your reality into something that you don't want to avoid. Very occasional K use can be a wonderful thing. It can even act as an antidepressant, but its when you end up using the stuff to avoid your reality and sedate yourself that it turns sour.
