The Ominous Existential Crisis and Psychedelics

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by SinisterBotanist, Apr 24, 2011.

  1. SinisterBotanist

    SinisterBotanist Member

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    Recently I have found myself over-analyzing life and its components. A week ago my intrusive thoughts reached a peak and I would have random spurts of deep despair and thoughts of suicide I do not want. I have no sense of guilt and I actually think highly of myself, I'm just not sure what matters in life right now, if anything does. I'm scheduled to see a therapist soon.Anyway.. would you recommend someone going through something like this cut out the psychedelics? I doubt psychedelics are the cause of my intrusive thoughts, as they have happened before with other things. Should I, as Alan Watts said, hang up the phone? I'm not sure I've got the message yet. I'm worried that the extra introspection will not benefit my mind. Thanks.
     
  2. guerillabedlam

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    I don't think psychedelics will necessarily help or hurt you but you may want to find some alternative activities for a bit and take a psychedelic hiatus and see how you feel after a few months or whatever.
     
  3. Primal

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    Take a break, get some exercise, keep active, enjoy something that doesn't have any mental implucations, and come back when you're ready is my advice :) Maybe even look into meditation, something I have wanted to do for a while now...
     
  4. CFoust91

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    I know exactly how you feel. Recently I've learned to find a hobby, think of something you have always envisioned in yourself and do it! Psychedelics made me much more aware that about myself, that I need an outlet to my introspective nature. Through introspection I realized this, with the aid of psychedelics. So psychedelics can help, but they can also hurt. The trick is accepting and adjusting, things come and go on trips and if you take a high enough dose with the right type of personality, you can pretty much guarantee some profound and horrific epiphanies or whatever. Just go with the flow. And always realize the beauty of environment instead of the deep self, find the balance.
     
  5. SinisterBotanist

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    @Primal I just found out there is a Tibetan Buddhist center nearby that has meditation sessions every Saturday for free, so I'm gonna try that out. :)
    @CFoust91 Just curious, what was your hobby? I like to write music but it can be frustrating. And I've been reading a lot of Alan Watts stuff about "letting go" or getting rid of my attachments to ideals. It is difficult.
     
  6. rezony

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    drink ayahuasca. find some brazilian church in usa. some kind of monks that perform ayahuasca ceremonies i bet its gonna work for u. and there is something you can live for in your life just saying

    i'm maybe a father soon and i'm not ready for a child, yet i was tripping this week. it was such a sad sad trip
     
  7. Reality is BS

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    Your going through the dark night of the soul. It is a difficult but crucial aspect of the spiritual awakening process. Just know that it is possible to get through this and when you do you will be a changed person.

    Don't turn away from the truths that you are being shown, in the long run this will all be worth it.
     
  8. rezony

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    such a comforting post, but i before now have thought i got passed this period. that i'm ready for life like never before and again, cause i've tripped, been trough psychiatry offices. I catch myself tripping in a dream inside of a dream, like i'm doomed to trip whenever things in life become chaotic so i loose my mind. i don't know what we are and what our purpose is. i believe we don't have one i just know its dark and i really should use a lighter. lighter to light up the DMT crystals which i don't have nor suppliers not even phalaris grass.
    Such an egocentric post, i know... but look, i was thinking about talking...I'm so tired of trying to explain ZERO. we can give so little and time is so fast...for explaining
    no matter how hard you try there are only bits of pieces that you can share with others.

    OP, good luck
     
  9. CFoust91

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    Writing and learning the guitar namely. Music appreciation. Smoking weed. Reading classic lit and studying psyche. Learning about the psychedelic experience.
     
  10. Meliai

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    I think if a person thinks psychedelics will help them through hard times, they probably will help. The fact that you're questioning whether they'll hurt or harm you and think there is a possibility that they'll make your problems worse probably indicates you should avoid them for a while.

    I've found the quality of a trip is usually decided by your intentions going into it. If you feel fear that they'll make things worse, its very possible that you'l end up having a bad trip.

    I hope things get better for you. Mental dispair can be hard to overcome. I've found that focusing on the positive elements of life is the best medicine.
     
  11. thismoment

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    Cutting down or out the mj (if you smoke) may be helpful to you. Yes, if you're fragile and there's connection between that and psyches, then surely a good idea to stop psyches as well.

    I quit psyches for ~35 years (one trip in that time and it was amazing) and quit smoke for ~25 years. It's actually was not a big deal. I was still me and happy in those long times away. Tripping again - RCs, botanicals, MDMA, and finally, I think, ready for LSD again.

    Life goes on and the song never really ended.

    Happy Trails to You
     
  12. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    ^^^what brought about the long breaks? i always kind of imagine that i'll stop for long periods, just wondering if it'll really happen. i know i've got some growing up to do, i'm still young
     
  13. Primal

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    Why not?! Let me know how it goes! :)
     
  14. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    We have alot in common. This, I feel, is good advice.
     
  15. SinisterBotanist

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    I'm can't say whether or not psychedelics put me in this situation but I know that whether I have tried them or not I would end up like this eventually. I'm feeling better today. My first visit to the therapist was interesting. He had some great advice and I'm trying to implement his ideas the best I can. Doesn't know I trip. I think I'm going to drastically cut down my use of psychedelics from two trips every three months to once or twice during the summer and that's it.
     
  16. thismoment

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    In contradistinction to your fiance's psychedelic experience and perception of it, LSD healed me. I was in 13 months of combat in the Marine Corps infantry. If not for LSD (and mj) there's a good chance I'd be one of those bitter old men, "goin' down to the VFW for a beer" (or maybe 10 of 'em - again tonight). But laying on the mattress on the floor in my triangular apartment, tripping, I had a healing vision. Serious stuff, man. I should add that my wife was/is huge in the healing.

    But you know, sometimes it doesn't seem like enough and at some point I was tripping 1-2 times/week on high doses and I got ahead of myself in time, so that I could see the consequences of every act and everytime I tested it, like say something or stand up or whatever, exactly what I knew would happen, happened, even involving other people, and I began experiencing this unthinkable boredom and reluctance to do much anything because of all the unbearably predictable consequences.

    I gradually came out that state of mind, and as I was already on a path based on LSD (service - as in serving others, not the service, lol), I just went for that as hard as I could and these many years later, winding down, and tripping again.
     
  17. LysergicEngineering

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    Hang in there. IMHO a psychiatrist will only bring you further from the truth. Goodluck and enjoy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiRIndmiKyU"]YouTube - What is Enlightenment? - Sri Bhagavan
     
  18. SinisterBotanist

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    He basically said to not give my thoughts any more power, so I accept them and don't dread it. It seems to have helped a lot and I'm feeling loads better right now. I'm going to trip ~30mg of 4-Acetoxy-DMT in the woods soon.
     

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