I was just thinking about the harm (or lack there of) that we do to ourselves in the name of 'fun' / 'experimentation' / 'psychonautery' etc etc, and would like to hear your experiences regarding this. Has anyone had any long lasting negative experiences? (and with what? How much? Setting? etc)... Most of the RCs I have found don't have a rough come down and are generally a lot of fun. I don't feel like I have done any lasting damage to any of my body, except maybe my memory from years of using E... Also does 5-Meo-DIPT really make sex THAT amazing??? lol
I have some issues with visuals being more prominent in my sober life after I started dosing 2C-E. After my first 2C-E 'binge', which consisted of dosing every weekend for about 2 months (which is really nothing compared to some people on here :tongue I've been seeing some mild tracers when objects move and when I'm really tired/stoned I get lots of colour saturation in my field of vision. That could just be the fact that I've tripped enough to notice these small visuals that have always been going on in my visual field. Yesterday I was talking to a friend who was complaining about getting little bursts of energy that would wake him up when he tried to go to sleep. After talking about it for a bit he said that he thought maybe it was some research chemical he did messing around with him. He's done 2C-E twice, 4-HO-MiPT once and 4-HO-DiPT once. I told him that it was probably more likely that drinking most weekends and smoking every day would cause your body harm than using research chemicals as much as he did.
I had some negative effects from 2C-E, that's about it. I did some high doses and one heroic dose, and sometimes tripped more than once a week. I consumed less than 1 gram, probably less than 750mg, in my lifetime so I gues it's not that bad. But for months after I would see patterns in things I normally wouldn't.. it's hard to describe. It's like if I looked at a carpet, tiled floor, anything like that, the patterns would almost "flash" at me in a different color, like HEY LOOK AT ME! I also had some halos/static in my vision. But that's all gone now Not sure if I'd take 2C-E again. If I did it would be no where near as much as before.
I only have positive affects from taking RCs. My mental and physical health are better than they have ever been. My immune system is supercharged and I've cured myself of 3 allergies.
i've developed a bit of HPPD, that went away with time. i suspect it was 2ce that caused it, but i was using LSD as well. i feel like 2ce may have done some damage to my insides - like fucked up my intestines / bowels in some weird way.
I've got HPPD off and on. I'll see carpet or wallpaper patterns move and swirl, walls breathe, halos of light around lights, everything looks sharper and crisper most of the time, woodgrain in furniture and doors slithers around... that kind of stuff. Holy smokes, I'd have no idea what reinforced it the most vs. the least, but I've had it for twenty plus years from Lucy and shrooms. Overall, though, I am so used to it that it really doesn't bug me or interfere with my life when it recurrs.
Bit of HPPD. From LSD, not RC's. It's never been a problem, or interfered with anything. If it got to that point, it would be a sign that I needed to take a break. And they fade with time after tripping.
Just gonna answer the Foxy comment, i've tried it and sex was completely out of the question and my girlfriend was in the room and looking hot... did ask to take it with her but she didnt wanna do it because it was before i introduced her to 4-aco-dmt n stuff. Heard a lot of people on bluelight saying it's a shit sex drug.
I haven't abused any RCs used them all safely except Mephedrone which i have done a bit of sessioning on. Worst i got was a 4 week depression which was awful! But to be honest got worse after effects and body effects from MDMA/Pills than Mephedrone.
Some interesting reports here... I am a very infrequent user, maybe 5-10x per year at most (didn't do ANYTHING last year, or the year before)... I tend to steer clear of E these days as it has a tendency to fuck my serotonin levels mid week and make me a bit of a depressed / moody ****, which aint cool, especially if I'm working, but if I don't do it then it doesn't happen! Lesson learned... Shame though as I used to LOVE it, speaking of DiPt being a sex enhancer, E has helped me have some of the most incredible sex of my life, no question! That is probably what I miss most Had an acid flashback before a uni presentation once, while I was VERY hungover that was... interesting, banging head and the carpet was moving around... I'm thinking I might steer clear of 2CE (well, I might try it the once lol). I found 2CI left me with minor visual disturbances the next day, but nothing to write home about... So DiPT aint all that then?! Dammit! I was kind of looking for something to replace E for a good old boinky sesh!
^^well you were talking about 5-MeO-DiPT or foxy, not DiPT. 2ce makes my body feel like what i thought ecstacy would feel like. so does 2cb, and sex on that was pretty cool
I usually don't like sex on psychedelics. I just can't get into it not even on X except for the one time I rolled alone by myself while my b/f was at work. I jumped his bones when he got home. He didn't know I was rolling lol. He was like O_O Happy to see me??!! Especially on psychedelics though, lsd, 2cx, miprocin, shrooms, ect, I am not in the least bit turned on.
I did end up in a psych ward a few years ago. I was using cannabis and/or alcohol daily as well as LSD, 5 me0 dmt, Salvia, Ketamine, xanax, oxycontin and ecstasy in a 2 month time span prior to that incident. I was diagnosed with a schizoaffective break, and then I went back home and sobered up for a few months, came back to school. Quit smoking weed and drinking but started experimenting with psychedelics again. I seem to be doing ok mentally now, certainly not bad as I was but I still may have some lighter persisting symptoms. So I don't know, I don't seem to have memory problems really, I'm not sure if I always am thinking very coherently or clearly but I think it's very difficult to self diagnose yourself on something like this. I think your brain is not designed to pick up on these types of changes really, so I don't think the changes that may happen would be all that apparent or obvious to yourself, if that makes sense. Also notice most of those drugs I was using were not RC's. I will say I have had just as bad as hangovers/comedowns from 2ci, 2ce and 2ct7 as I have from Ecstasy, so the drugs are not without negatives. 5-me0 mipt (moxy) sex was pretty amazing, but I prefer ecstasy. I haven't tried 5-me0 dipt. Mescaline is pretty amazing for sex, methylone is as well but you would probably be running into all the same problems as you did with Ecstasy.
^^^NONE of them were RCs, unless you consider 5meodmt one. but that's naturally occurring right? also, GB, i'm just curious why you write "5 me0 dmt" it's an oxygen atom (O) not a zero (0)
Originally probably because I see it written like this on places like wiki 5-MeO-DMT and now it's just habit so get used to it.
I know, I was just being lazy... I'll make sure to put all the correct numbers and letters in next time! lol I'm hopefully acquiring some 2CB soon, so I'll give it a bash... And some acid... lol Yeesh thats quite a variety of things to be putting your brain through in a short time (although I have had nights where my goody bag sounded a bit like that he he) I'm glad you didn't do any permanent damage though dude Mescaline hmmm... Is that in plant form or extract? not sure I'm up for eating a ton of cactus, but it has always fascinated me :sunny:
I had sex after consuming a full San Pedro Cacti Brew, It is certainly foul tasting but it's a great experience. It was lighter and not quite as forced in in either direction but it was great for sex because it had the euphoria and emotional component similar to Ecstasy and the deeper epic sense and hallucinations of LSD.