iPhones Track, Store and Share Your Every Move!

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  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    It's beginning to look like Apple is now helping Big Brother keep tabs on you. Apparently the iPhone software tracks and makes a complete record of where you've been. As if that isn't bad enough, it allows other apps to access that info, without your knowledge! It doesn't keep the info behind a firewall or require a court order to obtain it, as do other cellphone operating systems. No, it will freely share that info with any app that requests it...

    As I keep saying, "They're WATCHING YOU!"

    I don't even own a cellphone.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/apple-iphones-tracking-users_n_851532.html
     
  2. stash napt

    stash napt Member

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    This is why i love my shitty cosmos lg cell.. :D
     
  3. ThePepsiSyndrome

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    There has been several people recently who thought they were "Anonymous" taking nude pictures of themselves with their iPhones as a joke and posting them on "various websites". What they did not know was the images they posted had data embedded in them with the exact GPS location the photos were taken.

    Whoopsie!
     
  4. LeviathanXII

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    This is pretty bad news, but to be honest, not unsuspected. Unfortunatly, I have an Iphone. In light of this news I probably will not get rid of it though. Sure it knows where I am, I would hope it does considering how much it does for me. No matter where I am, I am able to get GPS, weather and traffic information, even bus schedules because "your location" is there to narrow the search for certain things. You can turn off "your location", but I do not know if that means they are no longer tracking you...

    Newspeak, Doublethink, Big Brother, the thought police.
     
  5. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    It's hardly surprising to me... pop culture is resembling more and more the cult's poison kool-aid that people just can't get enough of.

    Kinda redefines the term "wormy Apple".
     
  6. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    oh no illuminati! tupac warned us about this! KILLuminati!
     
  7. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    idk about every move but yeah its true.:
    http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/20...ne-and-ipad-location-tracking-privacy-issues/
    Researchers Disclose iPhone and iPad Location-Tracking Privacy Issues
    Posted on Wednesday April 20, 2011 10:43 AM EST; Category: iPhone by Eric Slivka

    A pair of security researchers today announced that they are sounding the privacy warning bell about the capability of iOS 4 to track the location of an iPhone or iPad on an ongoing basis, storing the data to a hidden file known as "consolidated.db" in the form of latitude and longitude and a timestamp for each point.
    All iPhones appear to log your location to a file called "consolidated.db." This contains latitude-longitude coordinates along with a timestamp. The coordinates aren't always exact, but they are pretty detailed. There can be tens of thousands of data points in this file, and it appears the collection started with iOS 4, so there's typically around a year's worth of information at this point. Our best guess is that the location is determined by cell-tower triangulation, and the timing of the recording is erratic, with a widely varying frequency of updates that may be triggered by traveling between cells or activity on the phone itself.

    While the consolidated.db file has been known for some time and has played a key role in forensic investigations of iOS devices by law enforcement agencies, the researchers note the data is available on the devices themselves and in backups in unencrypted and unprotected form, leading to significant privacy concerns. Once gathered, the data is saved in backups, restored to devices if necessary, and even migrated across devices, offering a lengthy history of a user's movement.


    Data points pulled from iPhone backup

    The researchers, Alasdair Allan and Pete Warden, have also put together a downloadable application that allows users to view the location data stored in backup files on their computers. Allan and Warden have reached out to Apple for comment but have yet to receive a response, and in the meantime recommend that users encrypt their iPhone and iPad backups for increased security.
     
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  9. skip

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    Funny how this has been going on for a year and people are just now finding this out? What other tracking features are out there that we don't know about yet? And I'm not talking about just iphones.
     
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  11. Nostromo

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    It's kind of funny because soo many Apple "users" think of Apple as the "alternative to big brother Microsoft" company - and it turns out Apple is even worse (and not just on this one - like also how they control their "app" market and stuff).
     
  12. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Man, you knuckleheads are sooooo far behind the times.


    FBI uses cell phone microphones as an eavesdropping tool

    December 1, 2006 10:20 PM PST

    The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.
    The technique is called a "roving bug," and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him.

    Nextel cell phones owned by two alleged mobsters, John Ardito and his attorney Peter Peluso, were used by the FBI to listen in on nearby conversations. The FBI views Ardito as one of the most powerful men in the Genovese family, a major part of the national Mafia.

    The surveillance technique came to light in an opinion published this week by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He ruled that the "roving bug" was legal because federal wiretapping law is broad enough to permit eavesdropping even of conversations that take place near a suspect's cell phone.

    Kaplan's opinion said that the eavesdropping technique "functioned whether the phone was powered on or off." Some handsets can't be fully powered down without removing the battery; for instance, some Nokia models will wake up when turned off if an alarm is set.

    While the Genovese crime family prosecution appears to be the first time a remote-eavesdropping mechanism has been used in a criminal case, the technique has been discussed in security circles for years.

    The U.S. Commerce Department's security office warns that "a cellular telephone can be turned into a microphone and transmitter for the purpose of listening to conversations in the vicinity of the phone." An article in the Financial Times last year said mobile providers can "remotely install a piece of software on to any handset, without the owner's knowledge, which will activate the microphone even when its owner is not making a call."

    Nextel and Samsung handsets and the Motorola Razr are especially vulnerable to software downloads that activate their microphones, said James Atkinson, a counter-surveillance consultant who has worked closely with government agencies. "They can be remotely accessed and made to transmit room audio all the time," he said. "You can do that without having physical access to the phone."

    Because modern handsets are miniature computers, downloaded software could modify the usual interface that always displays when a call is in progress. The spyware could then place a call to the FBI and activate the microphone--all without the owner knowing it happened. (The FBI declined to comment on Friday.)

    "If a phone has in fact been modified to act as a bug, the only way to counteract that is to either have a bugsweeper follow you around 24-7, which is not practical, or to peel the battery off the phone," Atkinson said. Security-conscious corporate executives routinely remove the batteries from their cell phones, he added.

    http://www.zdnet.com/news/fbi-taps-cell-phone-mic-as-eavesdropping-tool/150467


    Go ahead and keep saying we don't live in a police state. They're treating us like frogs, throwing us into a pot of room temperature water and slowly cranking up the heat before we realize we're boiling over and there won't be any escape.
     
  13. skip

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    If you think phones are the ONLY way they can eavesdrop on you, look at what you're typing on... Your desktop/laptop can also transmit without your knowledge. I keep my mic and camera on my laptop covered at all times since I don't ever use them...

    If your computer is running slow, it might not be your ISP. It could be Big Brother watching you!
     
  14. BonnieKSimon

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    This is so ridiculous. ANDROID PHONES ARE TRACKING YOU TOO! In fact, ALL smart phones that use apps track you so that they can bring you a more successful search whenever you're on the road and need a particular service, such as finding a restaurant, bank, gas station or just a friend with another iphone. ALL Android phones, as well as iPhones have this feature and HAVE ALWAYS HAD IT. It's no big secret, except for the terminally stupid or people who were born yesterday.
     
  15. skip

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    There's a big difference between tracking where you are NOW, and where you've been for the past year. And not securing that info. Android phones have more security for that data, and don't keep a years worth.

    In case you haven't figured it out, Law Enforcement now routinely looks at your GPS and phone when they stop you to see where you've been, even if it's none of their business.

    I said this b4 and I'll say it again...
    All these new features coming out are simply the result of the gov't wanting to get at info it currently can't.

    This kind of tracking would've been wonderful for the Gestapo to find all resistance collaborators, etc. To let our gov't track us like this is Big Brother at its worst.

    And you my dear Bonnie are acting like someone who was born yesterday because the younger generations don't even realize that they've handed the gov't and corporations all the privacy rights we used to take for granted. And I can guarantee many will regret this one day.
     
  16. barefootlocks

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    This is insane! Exactly the reason I don't have any of that shit...well that and because I'm broke... :D
     
  17. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    I dont have any of it either!!!

    ALL THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY IS NOTHING BUT SPYING GARBAGE!! (I have known it for awhile now)

    In news

    Customers Sue Apple Over iPhone Location-Data Collection

    http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/04/iphone-customers-lawsuit-data


    Good @ least they arent puppets and are standing up!!

    No one has the right to compromise anyones privacy!!
     
  18. boguskyle

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    android phones are different, because when you turn them off, they'll wipe the location data, unlike the iphones.
    and let's make this clear, there's a difference between tracking a phone, and a phone logging its location data (mainly for GPS purposes). tracking is people keeping track of you and shit.

    i'm an apple fan but i agree that the location thing is messed. Steve Jobs should at least humor the public and do what the droids do, cuz i'm 80% positive that altering the location functions wouldn't affect the performance of the device.
    its very sad that when reporters question Steve Jobs about the lawsuit that is now filed for this subject, all he said was:
    "We don't track anyone. The info circulating around is false.

    Sent from my iPhone
    "

    that bitch better lose in court.
     
  19. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Apple makes this sort of spyware harder to implant and use. As does linux. I'm pretty confident in the security of my system. Then again, I'm not a high value mobster, and if they cared they could probably screw with me. But it would be harder than a windows mobile smartphone that syncs with a windows box ;)

    The iPhone protects you very well from third parties, you can install anything you please on an android, apple MUST approve software, which keeps out malicious things. It's true that if apple does something evil, there's no defense, but they're ALL evil to a degree (other than tux, he never helps big brother) and if you're getting a smartphone, an iphone isn't the end of the world... I mean, I personally wouldn't, but the fact that people do isn't a huge deal.
     
  20. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    I've been considering cancelling my data plan and selling my new iPhone 4 for a couple of months now, and I think that this might be the push over the edge, so to say.
     

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