All I can say about Salvia is

What the fuck.

 

you took a large enough hit then? or you mean you didn't feel a thing?

 

I'm guessing something happened.

 

i want to hear about what happened... i can wait...

 

no need to a new thread, i just want to share. smoked some 1x right now, 10 minutes ago. 20x scared the hell outta me, so i don't use it for 6 months. i didn't hallucinate a bit, but had the physical pull (gentle) and the "taste of a solid throat" i always have. lol, unexplainable. i felt i was about to go, closed my eyes and could see it, but i realized i was conscious and started making questions with no response. well... some kind of something told me "you didn't smoke enough", but i think it was myself. when i smoke but still am aware of what is happening it's funny, because i automatically remember what the trips are about, but i'm sure in some hours my perception about them will be just wrong again, why we forget it when it's so clear during the trip?

i grabbed a pen while i was still coming down and tried to describe anything about it without thinking too much. i wrote this:

"salvia / on-off button, take me to imaginated reality / always the same / i'm another solid part of the fabric / i feel what is the equivalent of my molecules in this particular dimension / i feel what's happening is normal / no relation to the outside reality"

i'll restart my experiments starting with very small doses and recording every single session. wanna see if i can get some inner message about it.

 

That's right

 

let's pretend hell exists - it definitely would consist of being stuck in the place salvia brings you to forever.

 

almost enough to make me convert to christianity just out of fear of a salvia flavored hell

 

You don't have an opinion about salvia. Salvia has an opinon about you.

 

That actually might be pretty insightful. What I felt like it was saying to me is firstly "Submit to me!". It felt like it was looking down on me, to the point of making fun of me. Telling me in the most condesending way possable "You are not what you think you are." I am all I know to be, who the fuck are YOU nigga?! The salvia experiance triggered my survival instinct. And the first trip I did submit to it, and I can never describe what happened... can't. It doesn't make sense in this consious plane of existance. The second time is when I fought it and actually managed somehow to struggle my way out of breakthrough space.

I have an equal level of facination as I do of terror with the plant.

But I don't think my brain needs that shit right now.

 

Salvia is quite bizarre!

it has been awhile since i last smoked it..not really in a hurry to get some more lol..

 

She will only give lessons when they are deserved and she is not alway kind.

 

I remember my first (and last!) intense Salvia experience! Jeepers that stuff isn't to be fucked with! I would much rather take a large dose of 2ci/b or acid than go through that again!

I took a LARGE bowl (heaped) of it in a friends bong after a night out and a few drinks (probably not the best idea) . It was 20x and as soon as I started exhaling, BAM! I lost the ability to stand, it literally knocked me on my arse. I was lying between a coffee table and a sofa, my back to the sofa, above the sofa was a Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas poster - the one where Johnny Depp's face is melting. I had done Salvia once or twice before and it just made me piss my pants laughing - not this time! I felt like cogs were grinding me under the sofa, and johnny depps face was blending into the coffee table, which was no longer a coffee table, but a yellow brick road. I was being squeezed down a yellow brick road to some unknown place under the sofa, and it wasn't a nice sensation! Thankfully it soon wore off and at that point I decided to call it a night. Don't think I'll be doing that in a hurry again! And this is from some one who loves tripping their ass off! Be careful kids!

 

That's not a very sound philosophy to go by, The quality and potency of salvia can vary a great deal, also it requires a certain smoking technique for maximal effects which not many have on their first trip(s) with it. A strong salvia trip is extremely intense and can be less than reassuring.

Definitely approach it with respect and caution in regards to set and setting. I pretty much solely seek out strong salvia trips so don't hesitate to take huge hits if you want to see what the experience is about, its not very interesting to me at lower doses.

 

but she is beautiful, is she not?

 

lol u should be hesitant. this is a not a high. it's not funny. stay away, this is not what you want. it will make you question every single thing you know. salvia is anything but a toy and it can be pretty angry against you. if you want to explore the unimaginable, okay, but be aware this a serious and profound experience that will not bring any enjoyment. forget what you know about drugs, this is nothing like that.

i tried recording my trips and trying to describe what the fuck is that, but i always failed, it's impossible. experience it is the only way, there are no words for the state you're in, for what becomes your perception of self.

i smoked it twice today after long months clean. i know i'll be more grounded in the following days but i can't help but believe there's a true possibility of salvia being a contact with something really existant instead of a hallucination. at least i'm 100% sure of this once i'm there and in the first minutes after the comedown. and i can't imagine right now any feeling so uncomfortably weird like this "knowledge". it fades very quickly once you start to have contact with your usual things and friends again, but something always remains ticking in my head and frankly i'll never be sure again.

 

mate, that's deep indeed.

i don't know exactly how it affects the brain. all i know is that it triggers kappa opioid receptors. the kind of research with the eeg you said was done by daniel siebert. i think i saw something about that on youtube.

all i know from my experience is that it makes me see realities and structures beyond words. it does look like something external to me, in the sense that i could not be creating it with my imagination. it's not like with other drugs where my perception about reality is slightly distorted but i know the effect is within myself. on salvia, reality itself is ripped apart around you and you're dragged and merged with something absolutely weird that escapes comprehension.

 

FUCK salvia

 

Salvia is quite unpleasant, but i still somehow find it goddamn interresting.

 

Salvia was my first psychedelic experience. In retropsect I stepped into the deepest end of the pool first.