Should Acid Be Legalized?

Should good ol' LSD-25 be legalized? de-criminalized? or stay illegal?
Any thoughts on how it should be incorporated into society, if at all?



I'm somewhat undecided still on how I stand on this issue! On one side I think it should be legalized and available to everyone over a certain age. On the other hand I realize that there is a lack of respect in our western society for these powerful substances (and a lack of respect for everything in general!) and many people would end up using them 'irresponsibly.' Of course eventually people would learn! and the general populace's stance and understanding of psychedelics would shift but for now they're still lumped in with the other drugs as just another way to 'get fucked up'. But we're not living in some aboriginal tribe in which psychedelics have a clear spiritual value, instead we live in an extra-individualistic, industrial and capitalist society where religion, let alone, spirituality has been on a steep decline. I'm not saying one type of society is 'better' then the other but it is what it is. However, unfortunately there isn't a place for psychedelics in our current society. I think they're illegal more because of how they can open one's eyes to the fallacious assumptions that underline our society (such as that money/sex will make you happy, or the classic 'American Dream' idea) than because of their negative effects on individuals. All one has to do is look at some statistics or research into alcohol related deaths, addictions and other problems to see that the fact LSD is illegal isn't just because the government 'cares.' haha!

For now though I think acid should be de-criminalized and let the people decide how it should be used themselves

 

I think everyone should defiantly try it once, but I doubt it will become legal because of the many misconceptions there are about it. I told some mates about trying some with me, and they gave me this look like I am some kind of insane person. Then they told me how everyone has told them "this and that" about it.

Your dead right about people abusing it, but there will always be people who have to push the boundaries

 

Ya totally! This is all hypothetical of course. Realistically I don't believe acid will ever be legalized in our current world order until there is a complete change in how things operate. Consumer Capitalism + LSD go together like rainbow sprinkles on a nice fresh shit you'd eat it and then be like wait why am I eating shit?! Gimme them sprinklez~! But then the shit would feel left out cause it spent its whole steaming life trying to make you want things you don't need hahaha okay bad analogy but ya... :2thumbsup:

Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with people pushing the boundaries! One can responsibly do 100 tabs. A friend of mine did once actually haha but that's another story! What I mean to say is that pushing the limits and being "irresponsible" are two different things yet at the same time can be the same depending on the circumstances.

 

There's reason for optimism - look at what's happening with marijuana's legal status. I think psychedelics will be legal or decriminalized in your lifetime if you live a typical lifespan.

 

No because even if it became legal there would always be that retarded bunch of kids that abuses it and then dies or acts like an idiot and puts it on youtube so it would just become illegal again.

 

Of course it should be legal. All drugs should be legal for anyone to use if they choose to do so. I also do not believe in use age restrictions, that should be a families decision, not the governments..

No need to incorporate it into society, it's already here. Just stop arresting people for use, possession, and distributing.

 

Yes, it should be legalized, no question about it.

 

it doesn't matter whether it should or shouldn't be. it won't be anytime in the near future.

 

True, marijuana's legal status does hold a promising future, but psychedelics are way more intense, unpredictable and there's the whole bad trip concern. So I dunno if any success in legalizing marijuana would lead to any success for lsd being legalized, at least for now.

Also I think that the idea of families deciding when their children are 'allowed' to do acid instead of the government is an interesting concept! However, I don't know how effective doing that would be, it'd be a good idea to try out though!

 

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You know, its all an exercise in futility, but like Molly said above, the biggest barrier to legal status is reckless people doing reckless things. Witness the recent debacle with 2c-e, most likely soon to be scheduled as well. Never mind the argument that one person has died from it in the last how many years... and people die constantly from so called "legal" drugs like tobacco and alcohol and take a much larger toll on society.

There are glimmers of hope, like MAPS funding research on mdma for ptsd and pscilcybin for end of life crisis. For me, I choose to do what I can to educate myself about things, and exercise responsibility when I do psychedelics. That means I don't drive, don't go to work tripping, take care of responsibilities beforehand, and behave myself in society when I do trip. Thats just me tho

 

I don't think children should be allowed to do it.

 

It should certainly be legalized. As well as any other black market drug.

Which is reasonable.

 

Theoretically I believe people should be free to do whatever they want as long as it does not impede upon another persons freedom or well being, meaning that if someone chooses to do acid because they want to, its all fine by me. Realistically however, making a substance such as LSD available in unrestricted quantities could bring about some interesting and perhaps undesirable circumstances. I usually advocate that should substances such as LSD or other psychedelics become legalized, that they be regulated in order to 1) Evaluate individuals for mental complications 2) Regulate the quality of the substances being sold to the highest standards, and 3) Monitor personal use by quantity to ensure that it is not being re-sold to underage children as well as ensure that the individual is not going necessarily overboard (By which I mean dosing every day and needing outrageous amounts each additional day thanks to tolerance in order to sustain.)

 

Ya I don't think children should be allowed to do acid either!
But I doubt any parents would let their children do acid at an early age, the problem is though that there would always be some crazy group of parents who would! And if the law was such that parents decided when their children could do acid then there would be no legal way to hold their parents responsible for letting, or maybe even giving, their children acid.

The main difference between cop or family decision making on when children should do acid is that there's more of a deterrence factor with the cops. Either way though most acid users will avoid both the cops and their parents knowing they are doing it. So it shouldn't make a difference for people doing it except maybe if cops didn't enforce it people who's logic for not doing them was cause "drugs are illegal, therefore, they are bad" may end up trying acid at a higher rate. Alternatively people doing acid for its 'taboo' appeal probably wouldn't be as likely to do it if it were legalized. So both groups may equal out somewhat, but the overall rate of acid use would definitely increase because there would be more producers (if it were decriminalized) or there would be drug companies who would end up producing it for people (if it were legalized).

 

Of course some groups of parents would let their children do it. But you are wrong that there is no way to hold them responsible if they do. Buying cigarettes is illegal to persons under 19 (In Canada), also, giving cigarettes to minors is also illegal and chargeable (That is the responsibility part). But smoking is not illegal for minors. See the loophole? I can imagine it would be similar for LSD. If the children can not be expected to be responsible for their own actions, then the responsibility falls to the parents.

 

^ true that

Also I just realized if acid was available on a mass level and people could either easily buy it from dealers without criminal consequences or if they could buy it at stores there'd be way more cases of people drugging people with acid. Imagine people giving someone 1000doses of liquid acid in with someones drink. Used that way acid could be extremely dangerous! These near inevitable events no doubt would catapult LSD back into illegal status if it were ever legalized. Now of course acid drugging happens anyways but since its such an extremely potent drug and has no smell/taste if it were available on mass it would happen way more.

 

Then don't let your child use it. But if I want to allow my under 18 year old child to use any drug, including LSD, Why should I not be allowed to give that permission. And why should my child and I be jailed, or fined for doing so.

 

there are a lot of shitty parents out there. do you really think they should be trusted giving their children something as powerful as a psychedelic? childhood development can be very sensitive, and giving parents that right seems very irresponsible to me. i'm not saying that under 18 year olds can't safely trip (i seemed to turn out fine), but law isn't about every individual case, but about protecting the general good

 

and any drug? really? so parents should be allowed to shoot up their kids with heroin? and do kids (especially young ones) really have the cognitive ability to understand what it means to consent to taking a trip?