God in School?

At my school (I am in a public high school), we have a group called Campus Life that comes once per week before the first bell rings, and teaches the Bible. Three days a week, they hand out invites to EVERYONE during lunches, breaks, etc.
What are your thoughts on this? Am I the only one that finds this to be sort of intrusive? Hypocritical? I am curious if the school would be so welcoming for an atheist group or a Muslim group to come and preach.
Anyone else feel the same way?

 

I don't quite feel the way of welcoming people off the street, but the God is equal to the God of the undiscovered truth of the highest academia.

 

It's extracurricular. No one is required to take part in it and therefor it isn't intrusive and not a problem.

 

Could you explain how this is hypocritical?

I agree with neodude on this one. It is extracurricular. If you don't dig it then don't go.

If you are concerned that not enough religious viewpoints are being presented in your high school then create a group. Hand out your own invites. The school shouldn't tell you that you are unable to have a group like that if one similar already exists.

 

god used to sit by me in english. only reason i passed that class was 'cause i copied off him on the quizzes. dude had some crazy ass hair and wore some funky robe shit. the craziest shit would happen at lunch. he'd go up and get his tray, but everyone at his table wouldn't. the next thing you knew all of them would all of a sudden have food in front of them. it was eery

 

They did that when I was in school, too. One of the youth pastors would come pick up the kids from his church and take them out for lunch and when he brought them back, he'd sit and preach to my friends and me because we were the scary looking kids. We just kind of ignored him and one day he stopped. If they aren't affiliated with the school, the school can't really be held accountable for anything. However, if there is a clause in your school's handbook about visitors, you need to press that they follow the same rules as everyone else.

 

Not much of a problem for me - as long as other groups are give the opportunity too. If only christians are allowed, then it's a major problem !!

 

I find it to be hypocritical because my school in particular frowns upon atheism, or any other non-Christian religion for that matter, so if they hold a particular attitude towards one group, they should not cater to others.
I also find it to be intrusive in the fact that they push the event on you. It may be extracurricular, but it's no different than pushing a product.

 

Let me tell you what the far-out cool hippies told me
You should be glad when you see ideas you don’t like being publicized because this is evidence that REAL FREEDOM truly exists!

That’s not intrusive
intrusive is when those ideas are not allowed.

Hypocritical is when hippies say that we should be THANKFUL for unpopular/unwanted ideas being publicized but then COMPLAIN about the ones they don’t like !

Atheism is what your regular school curriculum is teaching you in class
And what’s pathetic is that students swallow this theory up as readily as fundamentalists swallow up the 6 day creation theory

No-one bothers to embarrass the teacher by asking for proof of evolution
A theory which has been disproven long ago but no-one has come up with a better propaganda yet to replace it, or other mind-control template to manipulate young minds.

 

Very good point.
+rep

 

NO.

 

Try again.

 

OP, quit-yer-bitchin'.

If it bothers you, go make a student club for atheism, or islam, or whatever the fuck you want.

I was at a high school that heavily emphasized "tuesday school", a function run by a church two blocks away every tuesday, where you got free crappy food for listening to a crappy sermon. It was TOTALLY run by people from school, from the tech guy preaching to the math teacher pretending to cook and pigging out, cause he was a fat fuck. Teachers would openly tell you that you should go, during class. I'm very strict about seperating church and state, and frankly, I didn't give two fucks about that. No one forced me to go. What I minded was being told that I could shove my constitutional rights up my ass because the haircut I wanted was girly looking (kind of paraphrased) or when I wasen't allowed to go on a field trip that the teacher wanted me to, by special order of the principal, because I'd cut my hair at the last date I could, even though I had not been in trouble or received any disciplinary action about it. I thought THOSE where fucked up, limiting free speech is the problem, free speech is great, even if those who use it don't agree with you. Why don't you use your own free speech more, if it bothers you?

 

Agreed. I was tempted to do this in HS before I converted, however I was and probably am too lazy.

I am of two minds on the dress/appearence code issues.

1) if the rules are clearly stated, there are proper ways to go about protesting them (signatures on petitions from parents and students, etc). I have heard of students dying their hair immediately before a grad event and then going to the paper and other media sources when the school denies them access (which is clearly stated in the rules). There are proper ways to fight stupid rules.

2) Appearence codes are generally oudated and unnecesary. Dress codes should, however sadly are not, be a matter of common sense. This is why they need to exist. I gre up with standard dress codes such as finger tip skits and no profanity drugs or alcohol on shirts, etc. I do not think these are excessive rules. As someone I took a class from said (though in response to the Danish Muhammed cartoons from a while back), you can print them free speech and all, but modern sensibilities goes against it--just like you can print pictures of topless women on the front of every newspaper, or what have you, but common sensibilites do suggest agaisnt it.

Saying you must wear a collar, slacks (no jeans) yadda yadda yadda---silly

 

seems scratcho thinks god shouldnt be allowed in school
but i say why not ? everyone else has the right to an education.

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try again ?
i wasnt trying the first time, just ez going freeflowing ...
still not trying, but you are !
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oh ... ?

i never know what to say when ppl think im right
it never happens

but

[brace yourself]
evolution HAS been disproven !
you could sue your school for fraud and get rich
wanna clue?
genetics
the genes of man and monkeys prove beyond any doubt that man didnt evolve from monkeys
there is a huuuge jump in the genes which disproves evolution

do a few days research, then embarress and sue your teacher !

you see science and relgion are just like ppl
[their own worst enemies]
you dont need anything more than science to disprove science
and you dont need anything more than a bible to disprove religion
all the tools of 'self-destruct' are self contained

all you need is to think independant
and bang !
it blows.

 

If someone can enlighten others with pamphlets of religion then that itself is quite beautiful. Freedom of speech at a school is where it most makes sense.

 

Evolution has been proven over and over actually, hell even the sequencing of the genome proves it through comparison of dna from one species to another. Not to mention any biologist worth his/her salt will tell you evolution is well beyond the point of proof of a theory but more in the realm of a Law ( a la Newton). The reason evolution is taught in schools is not because of an atheist agenda (which btw evolution DOES NOT prove or dis-prove existence of a god), it *gasp* has factual merit errrm hard evidence. It's science (REALITY), tough shit!

http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/biology/7-03-genetics-fall-2004/index.htm

To the OP

It would seem that the religious group isn't forcing you to take notice so maybe just ignore them or better yet start your own group, as said above, if you feel not enough religious view points are being expressed at your school. Now if your school shows any resistance to the latter, you would have more than enough reason to be rightfully TICKED OFF!

 

I wanted to do something, but as the school told me, they'd spend my familys taxpayer dollars to hire whatever lawyer they needed, while I had the ability to hire none. Meanwhile, I would be suspended for not following the rules.

This was no suprise protest or anything, this was me and some friends not feeling that it was considered "unsanitary" and not properly "groomed" for men to have hair extending past their ears, eyebrows, or collar, or to have any facial hair, while females could grow any hair they pleased.

The "disrupting class" dress code clause is pretty standard, and reasonable. However, they determined that sensible long hair would disrupt class.

This is the bullshit that the texas "independent school district" system breeds.

Needless to say, every time I lost, I made a great show of disrupting class, passing around my "cut your hair or else" letters and preaching to no end about personal freedom, freedom of expression, and what's on my head being MY FUCKING BUSINESS. I also seized on the oppertunity to extend my rants to politics and the war on drugs. They would have had a much less disruptive (and less discrediting) situation on their hands if they had just quietly changed the rule.


They hated me

 

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These spare changers are bums and should not be disrupting tax paid educating. Tell em to get a job and read the first amendment. Then start a protest.

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