Well you say that, and then I say that, when you all come and say you're totally hippies because you listen to jimi hendrix and shit. No, you're just not. There's a name for someone who listens to a song and decides to become just like everyone else who likes that song. That name is FUCKING poser. Ain't got nothing to do with songs about dysfunctional relationships and shit from 40-50 years ago. Way of thinking, sure, but if you think that way because of a song you're a poser.:2thumbsup:
Okay. Look at what were attempting to escape FROM and what were attempting to escaping TOO. If both are considered, is being escapist really a bad thing? Hearing about the hippie culture in its entirety, learning about its people, its practices and its musical aesthetics in order to adopt a world friendly style to your life, in my opinion that's a completely acceptable form of transformation. As you aren't hurting anyone and by declaring yourself a hippie you are declaring a love for all that does you no wrong. Hearing a song from Motley Crue and deciding to buy a motorcycle, along with the leather jackets and what not is definition poser. They leave the house on the weekends dressed in their costume to make themselves feel better about how their viewed. Someone who knows they truly are not a part of what they are claiming to be, they walk but do not talk. A person who walks it like they talk it, no matter what they claim to belong to, is the real deal. There will always be varying levels of how much people are willing to let it in to their lives. Just because there is a gap in the time line from when it was started originally to now, doesn't mean anyone claiming to be a hippie is a poser or a fake. They were just born into something they don't want to be apart of, and the hippie culture is something they find much more attractive. Nothing wrong with that IMO Sure it might deserve a new name, so people like you can be satisfied. As knights are now known as 'Special Operations Personnel'. Besides modern culture is a smoothie of past and new lifestyles mashed with modern defaults which we're BORN into and all the modern technological advances to come with it. All it really comes down to is people like you who begin the judgement in the first place. If people want to call themselves hippies, and they feel like they honestly and truly are, that's really no business of yours, mine or anyone but he or she who declares it.
Hippie or not it's just semantics. Obviously noone can be a hippie from the 60's because the time is gone but what they valued and stood for is timeless and that is what I think people these days mean when they call themselves hippies. As for them being posers, I'm not so sure about that. I mean being a poser is being fake to look cool and fit in. Most people would look like idiots if they went around in genuine hippie garb with tie-dye and whatnot. But if someone considers themself a hippie just because they listen to music from the 60's then I agree they're confused.
1. my musical interests and my reading material impacted me to become a hippie, Jimi Hendrix and the Grateful dead especially 2. my friends treat me no differently. i hang around with whoever makes me happy 3. always
Good point. Am I a hippy? I dunno. Maybe I am. I wear blue jeans, hiking boots, t shirts and a straw cowboy hat. Not very tie-dye like. But I have a lot of the same beliefs. Kids can be that way as well. And yeah I've seen posers. They're insecure because they don't like the new, and instead of striving to make today a better place, they run and hide in what was yesterday, failing to realize that none of it matters as they have no idea what yesterday was.
Jimi and the GD didn't sing about a hippie lifestyle, they sang about gettin' fucked up, laid, and sometimes killing people, possibly because of your own problems or hard times. Just because a hippie lifestyle can incorporate the first two does not make them hippie influences. Those are just topics of hedonism that show up in EVERY musical genre.
I guess I've always been a hippie My parents are awesome, they didn't make me who I am today but they've always encouraged me to be myself no matter what anyone else says about me. I remember being about 10 and walking around handing out flyers about deforestation with flowers in my hair and no shoes and getting called a hippie by passers-by I said, thanks, because hippies have a way better life than you can ever hope to have And yeah, I agree that people who think they're hippies just because they like Jimi Hendrix or Cream are total posers. I would say that I hate people like that, but I don't really hate anyone so I will say that I severely dislike them When I was at school there were always people who listened to Inkubus Sukkubus and said, oh, I'm a goth now Erm.... no babes
Why dont we just let people call whatever they want to be called. If they want to be a stereotype why not? I myself fit in no neatly labeled box. I like all types of music. From gothic rock to electropop. Am I a raver? Am I a goth? NO! I am me and i have my interests that vary greatly. Sometimes I find myself into 80s inspired japanese fashion. Then the next I am into very spooky fashion. Same with music. I can never stick to one thing. I am no hippie. No goth. ect ect ect. To but it better I am interested into everything under the sun. Sorry this makes no sense....
We should all stop the hate in this thread... Just because we're teens doesn't mean we're superficial posers trying to either fit in or stand out. I am who I am, I've grown and changed throughout the years, and I have yet to grow. Maybe I joined this forum because I call myself Hippie, maybe I joined it cuz I like the freedom it gives, does it matter? I keep coming back cuz I've learned a lot here, and find many conversations rather funny, but either way I'm here because I am, and so are all of you, so let's just be happy that we're here together and love one another
i dont mean to be rude but the grateful dead DID NOT only sing about getting fucked up, laid, or killing people... listen to a few of their songs and you'd know... brokedown palace? standing on the moon? jack straw? dire wolf? samson and delilah? let it grow? black peter? the wheel? and so on and so on... i dont mean to seem mean and hostile but the dead are my ultimate favorite band, i follow phil and bob on tour, it just bothered me... im sorry :sunny:
Who really impacted your life to mold you into a hippy? Myself really, well, I'm British, and all that I hear and see outside and on the tv etc. is violence, war, and all the rest of it, and I've never liked it. When I was a kid I used to fight and such, but that was all just childish, now I won't except self deffence obviously. I've always liked the music too, Zeppelin <3. Anyhow, I think that if enough people free their minds from all the hate and such in the world, there may one day be world peace. How do your friends treat you, and who do you hang around with? Just as they would any other person, they're all lovely even though most of my friends are hippies, except my boyfriend, they don't judge me because of my clothes of beliefs, they judge me for me, which is why they're my friends, I don't believe in prejudery. Do you think it'll last? Only time will tell, I think it could, unless something dramatically changes me although, everything dramatic in my life has pushed me more towards being a hippy. Peace&Love. eace:
I actually don't give a fuck about labels, I was bullied when I was at high school because of people who labelled me, who were too insecure about themselves so they felt that they had to label me instead. So yeah, sorry if I subconciously label people, I don't mean to. Six years of being hated by my peers must have made me a superficial bitch.
Makes perfect sense. The reason you're not those is similar to the reason no one in this thread is a hippie. Also, how viciously they're fighting to be hippies tells me they're not
They generally played fun music to enjoy yourself to, sober or otherwise. Because some of their songs are sad, or about more innocent things, or involve slightly less infidelity, does not mean the music that they made inherently radiates peace. Same with hendrix. If you need counter examples, I would have to say that "Scarlet Begonias" and "Foxey Lady" are about getting laid, and "Hey Joe" and "Me and my Uncle" are about killing people. There are plenty more of each by each group, but you get the idea. I'm listening to "midnight hour" right now, and unless I'm mistaken, it's about working late, motivated by the promise of getting laid. Amirite? I'm not saying they're like slayer. Which, by the way, a hippie could listen to, as well, and still be a hippie. I'm just saying you can listen to music about any number of things. Don't make you a hippie. These sounds don't make you a hippie. Maybe they prod a part of you that was already there, but it's a lot of decisions you make on your own, if you say "jimi and the grateful dead made me decide to be a hippie", you're no hippie. That is, the kids in this thread.
Why are you so inent on proving that none of the teenagers in here a hippies? Its a thread for teeneages to elaborate on how they discovered free thinking. Not for some douche bag to roll i saying 'your not hippie, you listened to Hendrix and now your a poser.' Honestly go ahead and call me whatever you want because I really dont give a fuck. I didnt start imagining myself as a hippie after listening to classic rock, I started ater I realised how beautiful and correct the values and beliefs of the hippies from the 60's were. Damn started watching the dead and now I cant remember how I was going to finish this rant off, oh well
Most of the people back in the day who tried to be hippies weren't. I'm just old enough to have some rather disconnected memories and was starting to get some comprehension of what was on the TV news about the time we were pulling out of Vietnam, initiating diplomatic relations with China was being touted as major, and the unfolding story of the Watergate investigation and hearings with the Nixon administration doing everything it could to obstruct. There were fashion statement hippies back then just as much as there are now. In working class rural America (Maine) "hippie" was an exclusive clique. The parent class of the day was WWII vintage humans who didn't at all take kindly to the new, shaggy look inadvertently fueled the poser movement as it gave many a 15 or 16 year old an easy means of annoying the folks. Most eventually saw it as a phase, cut their hair, cleaned up and moved on- to become the first post war generation that would elevate greed to an art form and begin destroying the middle class as a result. The real ones never joined the main stream. As it once was, it will be again because we really don't learn from history.
