Issue with death

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by white dove, Apr 3, 2011.

  1. white dove

    white dove Member

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    So i jumped out of my van after returning from a trip to the bush, i opened the gate and there was a moth (big one) ((bogon motht)) hideing under neath he wasnt moveing thinkig he was dead i gave him a push, leading hih to become upside down,

    I drove my man inside the yard and closed the gate, mr moth was up side down waveing his legs in the air saying. Wtf, i was up side down the night before so i conected whith him in the way he might feel,

    So i gave him another push to help right him self ,, as i was walking away i noticed an ant walking around mr moth, the ant wanted to eat the slowly dieing moth, should i have put the moth out of its misery and slow death, maby move him to a safer place so mr moth could die in peace, or let the near by ant tribe consume him alive,

    I did end up letting nature take its course i couldnt just kill mr moth,.

    Any thoughts or potery for a situation like this,
     
  2. seizedbyanger

    seizedbyanger Banned

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    I try not to ever kill anything, but if I see something that is noticibly suffering I'll just kill it. I know I wouldn't want to suffer and if I were ever in a terminal state I wouldn't prolong it.
     
  3. white dove

    white dove Member

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    I was thinking the same, but there was something spechail about this mr moth,
    Carnt quite put my finger on it, tho defently wasnt there for me to kill,
     
  4. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    Nature can seem, and is cruel, the ever development of life however, is based on balance and though it can be hard on the emotions – there is always a purpose.
    Human death is often seen as sad however – if ‘nobody’ died as from tomorrow, and with babies continuing to be born, then the overpopulation would see such disaster – and maybe those walking dead zombie films may come back to haunt us?
    The only sad thing about nature, is mans desire to make profit and destroy it.
    Take away this aspect, and rely upon the Planets self healing process will ensure that those; of all manner of description, will endure.
    And a final point to consider: Nature = Natural
    :peace:
     
  5. knotdirty

    knotdirty Over the Rainbow

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    I had a pet moth named Pepito that lived in my bathroom once. It was sad when he died...we buried him in the front yard.

    That's sad that mr. moth died..Maybe he'll come back as a butterfly though. :)
     
  6. LoneDeranger

    LoneDeranger Trying to pay attention.

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    You did what you felt was right. That's all any of us can do.
     
  7. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    Same here, I can't stand seeing anything suffer.
     
  8. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    I would've put it out of it's misery probably.

    Or watched nature unfold. Would depend on my mood.



    One time I tried putting a mouse with a broken back/hind legs out of it's misery by cutting his head off with an older kitchen knife. It didn't work, but then I dropped a paint can on him.
    I feel like I shouldn't've intervened and probably cause him more trouble (though, if I knew to do the paint can the first time, it would've been good probably still)
     
  9. EffervescentDahlia

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    Life is a novel and death is simply the sequel, full of more excitement and adventure. The way I look at it, most things in this universe are too complicated for life to be that simple: live, die, the end. There must be something else out there...
    I don't kill anything on purpose, but if there was an animal suffering irrevesably I would need to put it out of it's misery.
    :D
     
  10. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Just because the universe is complicated doesn't mean life (or death) itself is.
     
  11. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    I mean, sure it's complicated, but it's made up of many small simple rules. That's the principle science is founded on, really.

    Water follows the path of least resistance; gravity pulls shit in; leverage makes shit easier to lift.
     
  12. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    and time is linear.
     
  13. prana

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  14. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    According to Bill Hicks, "It's just a Ride."

    Stay Brown,
    Rev J
     
  15. knotdirty

    knotdirty Over the Rainbow

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    :) I was reminded of this thread today...here's the exact scenario.

    I was out on the playground at work, and a group of kids comes running up to me.

    4 year old: "We found a baby eagle!"
    Me: "Where? In the sky?"
    4 year old: "No, over there, its a baby eagle!"

    I thought they'd found a dead bird or something, so I went over to look, and under the wooden playground thing there was a huge moth half the size of my hand. I told them it was a moth, and that it was dead.

    3 year old: "Can I throw rocks at it?"
    Me: "No, that's mean! Don't touch it and I'll be right back."
    3 year old: turning to the other kids, "Don't throw rocks or touch it! Amber's be right back, don't throw rocks at the eagle!"

    So we dug a hole near the edge of the playground, and I picked up the moth and dropped it in. I asked the kids if they wanted to name the moth. the 4 year old named it Rory. Then I asked if they wanted to say anything to Rory. 3 of them said "Hi Rory!" and the 4 year old said...

    "See you later, Rory!"


    Kids are so cool.
     
  16. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    I would have helped it die..unless it was like a giant Godzilla type moth
     
  17. yarapario

    yarapario Village Elder

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    White Dove I think you did right...at least what you did was right for you. You thought about that guy, you were with him and you wanted what was right for him. He had to do his own trip in the end...just like you and me. When I'm down on the ground floppin around I really don't want some giant fucker steppin on me for my own good. I'll figure that out myself. Maybe it would have been easier to get him out of pain and dismiss the thought of him. You didn't, so he's kinda livin' on through you. Now we know him. You did a good thing.

    I'd like to know you, you seem to have a kind of sweet fuzzy way of seeing the world, a lot like some of my own sons. That gentle quality is gonna attract a lot of good karma if you maintain. Wear your smile often, you look good with it on.
     
  18. jagerhans

    jagerhans Far out, man. Lifetime Supporter

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    your choice. time ago, in the perfect nightly silent of my home i heard kind of a creepy cry, a buzz, but at first I couldn't locate the source. i noticed that it was coming from underneath the large chest near the firewood stove .it was some winged insect, a tiny kind of beetle i couldn't identify, desperately struggling to escape from a spider's sticky filaments, a pholcus phalangioides if you want to know. the tiny creature was about to fall victim to the long legged spider and scores of microscopic youngsters coming out of the wood reserve in the chest. horrific situation, at first i thought to pick and save it but then, since it was fiercely wrestling death, i decided to watch the fight and eventually the tiny guy escaped unharmed from the bloody monsters. I would have rescued it anyway if things started to go grim for it, because it was not an annoying insect like a fly or a mosquito. Surely nature isn't going to go to rack and ruin for that... and besides, playing God is always funny :pimp: . lucky for it of NOT being a cockroach... thats why i never kill my spiders.
     
  19. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    Even if you had stomped it, that would have STILL been nature taking it's course... you're a part of nature..
     
  20. white dove

    white dove Member

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    ^ thats a good point tho is there a line between gods nature and human nature, nature is nature any nature is a nature, but i think if u found another specis any specis, would they do what human kind does, i think thats were i draw the line, were an evoluition of nature, not nature its self, correct me if im wrong, thank you all the same,
     

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