Is the Christian God & Muslim God the same?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Ddoright, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. Ddoright

    Ddoright Senior Member

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    My take is yes - they are. Both religions trace their roots back to Abraham - at which point Ishmael and Isaac went separate ways - Ishmael the father of the Muslim religion and Issac the father of the Jewish religion. As far I know the descendants of Ishmael never changed gods.
    As a footnote - Muslim and Jews should be equal in the Christian's eyes since neither believes in the deity of Christ. Your take?
     
  2. GLENGLEN

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    No.....They Are Not.....And Whats More.....They Never Will Be.!!..[​IMG]



    Cheers Glen.
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Yes, Sometimes there seems more difference between the jewish God and the christian than between the christian and muslim God.
     
  4. Ddoright

    Ddoright Senior Member

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    I base my opinion on Father Abraham and his descendants - what are you basing your opinion on?
     
  5. GLENGLEN

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    I'm Basing My Opinions On The Astute Observations Of A Middle Aged Man..:).



    Cheers Glen.
     
  6. willedwill

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    That's obvious, because Hegel did that one. And there was plenty of Necessity to consider a lacked concept of Nationalism and the Nationalism of necessary Biological Substance questioning evolution of the distinct races of animals. (truly man is not so lucky with distinct races)
     
  7. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    clearly they are the same

    and clearly they are both a figment of the imagination
     
  8. willedwill

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    Changing the national boundary between France and Germany made Necessity into new mechanisms of Progress. Therefore the necessary Biological Substance was realized in a new form of living mechanism.
     
  9. Ddoright

    Ddoright Senior Member

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    Forgive my french but - WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I would like serious consideration please.
     
  10. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Those differences where there long before Hegel came around.
     
  11. willedwill

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    See you at the demonstration against the war.


    There is an essentially tense period going on now; I believe the green movement only created a civilized veneer of tolerance as a peaceful display. And do mind the resistance to regarding an election as good means to air grievances.
     
  12. watertest2pt0

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    yes they are the same. which is also the same as the jewish and catholic.
    they are all abrahamic religions
     
  13. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    That those are all abrahamic religions is evident but if it's all the same god isn't to everyone.
     
  14. willedwill

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    I know a way to peace for that idea just the same. It's a different God to our idea; it's a different Matter there to our apparent phenomenal reading. Did anyone notice? The idealists of the transistor evolution hate each other the best.
     
  15. Argiope aurantia

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    To someone on the outside of the debate (me), they are indeed the same. I think that many branches of Islam actualy accept that they are the same, as do a few of Christianity.
     
  16. watertest2pt0

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    well i can agree with that..
    the roots are 'suppose' to be the same but the worship and dogma are so extremely varied, it seems - these religions branch off enormously. likened to a golden calf, sects, divisions, split off to fit their own needs, worshiping a created idol. you look at catholics and christians, jews and muslims, killing in the name of the same god.. i cant say as a Bible believer - this is the God i know.
    ..but as i see it, these things have already been foretold.
     
  17. watertest2pt0

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    Jews waiting for the messiah, which christians believe was Jesus. Some jewish sects (Messianic Judaism) even recognizes Jesus as the Messiah. Islam recognizes Muhammad as the last prophet, where he is not at all recognized in christianity or judaism.
    The christian old testament was based off the Tenach. Islam as well was founded in Judaism.
    at least to me.. it seems christians and muslims have more in common as they branch from the same tree.
    i guess to explain - you take judaism.. islam splits off, and then many years later christianity splits off.
    as a christian, your religion has jewish roots. jesus was even jewish. your heavenly rewards and inheritance are adopted in from the jewish promises. your Bible is based out of judaism. .. whereas christianity has no direct correlation to islam other than having stem from judaism
     
  18. thedope

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    I don't think it makes a squats difference, beliefs do not contend with truth.
     
  19. scratcho

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    Everything is exactly the same. Or has been. And will be after humans are gone. It's like the fallacy of chronological age--because everything in existance is exactly the same age. Differant forms. We and our beliefs make no differance except locally.
     
  20. kendallmiller

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    I used to think that they were...that Christians...Jews...and Muslims all had the same God...but now Im not so sure. I mean...in school...they taught us that they did...but the leaders in islam seem to suggest that their God is different than ours....but then sumtimes Im like...who knows? Extremists pervert their religion so I dont know wut to believe.
     

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