ok ill admit im really not that big of a stimulant fan. the odd bit here and there but i generally require a psyhedelic or some such to go with said stimulant. anyway as everything available "on the street" where i am located is all bunk or cut beyond recoginition, i decided to order some of this potent stim to try. well initial tests went as so 10mg insufflated ROA +00:15 feeling very alert, some foot-tap syndrome not excessive, jittery "amp" feel though probably more remincient of caffiene. some anxiety not dramatic. +01:00 more of the same jittery feeling increasing, loads of energy but controlled energy able to be switched on and off, not constant electricity of amp. strange feeling of "enjoyable megalomania" as if i put my mind to it right now i could accomplish anything. walking around laughing inside to myself but not truly euphoric. this continued on for several hours. +04:00 now a horrible feeling has overwhelmed all the pleasant feelings a pain in the gut literally, despite my eating a normal breakfast and lunch and not at all being turned off food. strange too much caffiene or the day after amp gut "feeling" more so than pain. those of you who have experienced this will know exactly what im talking about. basically this ruined the experience. it persisted on and on with all the residual stimulation of a day after a night on amp. the 10mg was consumed at 5:30am and this semi-stimulation and stomache upset persisted all the way till 1:30 am in the morning when i finally got to sleep. and in fact i woke up still feeling like this the next day. sorry about the lack of time consistancy but honestly after those first hours nothing noticeably changed till that night when finally SLEEP lol. the second experiment was around 30mgs in an attempt to test for euphoria at higher dose (same ROA) still, the effects were exactly the same just slightly more pronouced "megalomania" and stomach upset. once again a whole day of seemingly residual stimulation and general shitty feel. i wouldnt quite say dysphoria but not far off either. after these two experiments i am reluctant to bother again. and i have at least 1800mgs left of this crap!! grr overall a shitty long lasting nastier version of caffiene with a horrible stomach upsetting side effect. wondering if others who have tryed this one agree or have i been bunked? anyone got experience with other ROA's to better result? im reluctant to bother unless i hear otherwise. this stuff may be destined for the whirlpool yet
I've tried this one many times... swore it off after a 10-20mg dose (who the fuck even knows) kept me up for 4 days. but even with smaller doses i never felt like it was worth it, the comedown is HORRID and the peak is pretty dysphoric too.
mmt did get that horrid stomach upset? what ROA did you use? i insufflated and noticed no immediate pain however over a few minutes a burning sensation built up in my sinuses. not something ive experienced with anything else
yea i think ill just flush the rest of this one.. what a shame. note to all!! avoid desoxy-pipadrol. unless you want a coffee hit that lasts several days
I felt it was shit too... until I understand it's power. Now I take only 1mg (oral way) of it and it's the best stim I ever tried. Above amph (not difficult, amph is shit), above ritaline...
interesting darclef... good point blitz itl go to the trash gods if any then. darclef when you say the best stim youve ever tried in what manner were you using it? study aid? work aid? or just to generally stay awake? because i got no "rush" from the stuff its not my kettle of fish, although i suppose i could wait a week or so and trial at 1mg to see what thats like. i imagine it would be a usefull study aid at that miniscule dose
well tried the 1mg dose this morning, more pleasant than insufflation defintely. but i must say for me at this dose it wasnt very noticable. it made everyday tasks more pleasant although this could have merely been placebo. i experienced no bruxism which i did both times (although very minor) with the intranasal route. my conclusions remain essentially the same; a useful study aid, or general wakefullness agent. although i can't see use as a recreational stim.
