just wondering if anyone has tried one. i have 25 mg of miprocin which i've yet to try, but i think it might be kinda weak... therefore, i would consider adding 18-20 mg 2cb (or maybe 15 or so of 2ce) like an hour into the trip. or maybe starting with a smaller dose of the 2cx, (15 or 12) since they last longer, and then dosing the miprocin. any experience?
Yesh, I sure have experience with that one, and it sure ain't weak! Dunno why peeps say that of it?! Anyway, combos... ~20mg miprocin + about the same of 4 aces, totally immersive and craz-z-zy ~25mg miprocin + 30mg of 2c-e, very ecstatic, happy-go-lucky sorta trip ~approx. 400-500mg mescaline + 20mg miprocin + 15mg 2c-e, even more ecstatic, a little bit crazy-ish, very giggly, very heady (I saw faces all over the place coming out of the walls, bookshelves, etc.): quite fun! Overall, though, the 4 aces/miprocin combo was the most interesting of the bunch, did it twice, first time was actually 25mg of each oral, really synesthetic, the second time on that combo was about 20mg of each tooted up the nostrils, THAT, that hit hard and fast and lasted forev's, it was quite a strange night Before psychedelic bump IV was closed, you were asking about music to download, if you want something really trippy (that's kind of like a harder rocking version of Stereolab, if you like 'em), get the album 'Alpinism' by School of Seven Bells, & if you choose just one or two songs by them, go for "Connjur" as choice number one, and as choice number two, go for "iamundernodisguise", here is a link to both songs from the 'triptastic music' thread: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showpost.php?p=6761825&postcount=71 Hope all of that helps ya some! If you take any of my recommendations, enjoy! The music though just as rockin' as say Radiohead or Smashing Pumpkins, it is also melodic & soft in the same right as say Mazzy Star, you just might dig it if you're much the indie rawk kid like meeeee!
i'll have to check out your songs. i wansn't really asking for recommendations though, just asking what you guys like, or what 5 songs you would choose if you had to pick 5 free ones. when you dosed miprocin with 2ce, did you dose at the same time?
Sorry about that, I read out of it that you were looking for recommendations, my bad, I'm sorry dude. I hope you liked that band a lot and choose one of their songs! Hey, are you a vinyl collector or nay? Somehow I could picture you as a record store guy that likes to collect records. I know I am for certain. Long live the indie rawk, you put a a few of my favorite bands on that one 2c-e mix a bit back and one I remember was Pinback, they are so fun live, about as fun as Elliott Smith used to be, I wish that dude was still with the living. Anywhooo... other question..... Yes, I did dose each with one another and they ended up actually coming on together within about 20 min., well maybe the miprocin did and then the 2c-e crept up another 20 min. later, but something about some combos is that they change duration, peak effects, when the peak occurs, how long it lasts for, how long the entire experience lasts for and so on. Miprocin of its own nature is a very synesthetic, sensual, giddiness-inducing, tactile, nerve tickling drug that sort of just make you feel all tickled pink and doesn't really challenge your brain to a game of mental chess, instead it more caresses your mind and puts you at ease with the first alerts even. For me at least, 2c-e is very vivid, sensory enhancing, visually brightening and visually dimension-adding, very much commonly placing me in a non-stop state of the "now", blow by blow, auditorily stimulating, and mentally very easy to remain within my logical self while allowing me to damned near do self-Freudian simultaneous to self-Darridanian analysis, which is the effect in it that for some comes off as very frightening, confusing, uncomfortable, or as it's commonly termed, "dark", and yes, I can see the dark, but I don't freak on self-psychoanalysis, even when I'm punching my brain I always figure, "I should be doing this, exorcise them thar demons!" So for me, 2c-e is a guaranteed great time. Now when *I* combine the two, I see at as getting the best of both worlds, it's really enjoyable, and somehow all of those traits just weave together as if by nature's design. But the peak's timely attributes tend to take center state, which I actually prefer, and instead of like with 2c-e where the first five hours are the lead-up to the peak, and then you peak for about two to three hours and slowly jaunt back to basline over the next over the next five hours. You hit your peak the way miprocin works and that's within the first hour, about 40 min. after dosing each, you're peaking in both drug's ways at the first hour mark, and then like miprocin again, at about the 4 1/2 hr. mark, you almost abruptly (well, over the course of the next half hour) come to a lower plateau where then the 2c-e's effects grow more dominant, and so then like 2c-e, you begin the descent to baseline very slowly over the next six hours to come down, and so then also like 2c-e, you get that nice 12 hr. journey. I'd recommend it if you have the two drugs to take, and unlike a lot of 2c-e experiences, you need not worry about set and setting *quite* as much as usual because with miprocin, you can manufacture for yourself out of where you're at a comfortable set and setting, it also just puts you into a good mindset that doesn't allow for a lot of second guessing, worrying, or OCD-type behavior. One thing though, it gets a ton more interesting in virtual darkness with good silly, psychedelic music like Captain Beefheart, Of Montreal, The Residents, Elf Power, Olivia Tremor Control, The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band, The Fugs, 'Piper at the Gates of Dawn' through 'Ummagumma' era Pink Floyd (and Syd Barrett solo albums), early Roxy Music and early post-Roxy Music era Brian Eno, The first five or six Grateful Dead proper albums (as opposed to the copious numbers of bootlegs), The Moldy Peaches, and so on. The giddiness factor during and the synesthesia coupled with the self-psychoanalysis sort of bleeds together and goes, "Bluuuaaaooohhhhhh!" And sort of makes every aspect of your id, ego, and superego seem ridiculous, goofy, and not worth dwelling on, but since the 2c-e is there, the chess game between you and YOU goes down, but it's like the miprocin side just picks up the chess pieces and chews on them like a two year old teething in your brain and instead of playing that game of chess, decides instead that staring at the mobile that is your mental constuct is more pretty, shiny, and interesting. Good shit, give 'er a go and lemme know if you have a totally tubular time like I have the two times I did it Maybe listen to some of School of Seven Bells during that time, because, well, I did recommend it, but now I'm just saying you'd enjoy it I bet (assuming you enjoy Stereolab, Mazzy Star, and Smashing Pumpkins), and it most certainly would be an album I'd buy if I didn't already own it! May the force be with you! :2thumbsup:
I think miprocin and 2cb or e would be fun. Also miprocin and lsd sounds fun. I haven't mixed it yet tho.
Miprocin seems to share some of the preported qualities of moxy, in other words, that they both seem to be the MDMA versions of tryptamines. I wonder if the same is true of the simpler compound MiPT? Yeah, I must agree that lsd, bees, or virtually any sike sounds great paired up with miprocin. I wonder if the same is true of foxy, iprocin, or DiPT with regard to mixing well and putting an instant smile on your face the way that MiPT compounds do. Does anyone have experience with that grouping on the tryptamine family tree?
Miprocin was purely visual for me. So mixing it with a psyche that has a good instrospective mental vibe seems like it would go well. I don't plan on doing it by itself again. Not sure what I am going to mix it with yet either though.
wait......you've seen pinback?! oh dude i am so jealous. they are my favorite band. i have to see them some day. anyways, that was too many sorrys. i was just clarifying.. nah, i'm not a vinyl collector, but i do collect CDs. and by the time i'm old, CDs will be a thing of the past. but honestly, smashing pumpkins are the only band i recognized on that list i'll have to check out... school of seven bells and some of the other ones. grooveshark.com awesome site to build and save playlists
Have you done it before pork? if you have not, and considering your relative inexperience with tryptamines, i would take just the miprocin. 25mgs will not give you ego death, but it WILL make you hold on for dear life, in some way, at some time, i'm sure it certainly isn't "weak", just not obliterating. I could barely smoke a joint on the *comedown*. i know you're a hardhead but try it "naked" and see what you think. i also don't think of it as one i would mix with anything at all, for the same reasons i wouldn't mix DPT with anything; too vibrational, sexual, energetic, powerful. i couldn't imagine throwing anything else into the mix. and it's quite beautiful on it's own. instead of adjusting your experience with more drugs, beef up your setting
i haven't tried it alone, no. so it kinda goes against my philosophy in that respect. but i have a feeling it's degraded or something, from the person i got it from. or maybe he was a hardhead.. anyways, i will certainly dose the miprocin first, and then possibly dose 2cb after and hour and a half. how would i beef up my setting? same as you said with L - just leave the apartment and go out in nature or something? i'm pretty much just laying out potential scenarios, since i don't see myself doing this miprocin til next year or something...
I just meant you could augment your surroundings with things rather than your synapses with things, in order to improve the miprocin experience. Though I find it is very "in your head", shroomlike (naturally), and so having like trip toys or whatever around isn't my cup of tea, i'd rather just be naked and have good music playing haha. if you can do it outdoors safely that might be interesting. one thing you should know is it hits extremely fast for most people, like 4aces, so that 20 minutes after taking it orally you are likely at a +++. an hour after taking it the rocket ride is perhaps calming down a bit but only because you are now at cruising altitude for the next 3 hours. so you will definitely know after an hour and a half whether you want to augment it, but by that point, it's already on it's way down (especially when trying to overlay with something as relatively long lasting as 2c-b). The whole experience makes me think of an explosion; you swallow a bomb and it blows up inside you extremely quickly. 4aces is like that too, mushrooms can be too for sure, though not as dramatically since there is inert fungal matter to digest and not just flour-like powder to be absorbed instantly by your stomach lining. why don't you see yourself doing it til next year? its a fairly short and forgiving experience, especially if your supply is degraded .
i just don't trip very frequently, and with the tentative agreement i have with my fiance (tripping once per 3 months), i feel like there are other things i'd rather spend my time with. (2cb, LSD, mescaline, DMT) you know me - always planning and calculating....i figure i'll dose 2cb or mescaline in may, the other of the two in july, maybe LSD in august (i can get away with more in the summer) and by the time next winter comes around i think i'll give 2ce a go (it will have been a year and a half since the last time i had that one - a personal favorite) i have no idea when i'll try DMT, but i'm not gonna count that in my schedule... when i do get around to miprocin, i'm sure i'll treat it similarly to all of my trips, i'll spend some time indoors with music, exploring CEVs, and some time outside walking around the park, or riding my bike around the cemetery. i could take it camping or something, but probably not my first time... the only trip toy i have is a laser pointer. music and nature suffice for me
I like to use last.fm to build playlists, but I have hardly any music on this computer (it's mostly on my iPod), so it won't stream into the site really. I think I've got Harry Nilsson, MGMT, School of Seven Bells, Air, & Jackson Brown on this computer and that's it. Pinback. I've seen them about three times, the best being at the Polish gathering place that holds shows in that Polish neighborhood next to Williamsburg in Brooklyn. That's also where I saw Mogwai the second time I saw them. Vinyl is where it's at! Long live vinyl technologies!!! Technics!!!
Xbmc is the greatest program ever for tripping. It has a grooveshark app and streaming radio stations as well as many other apps and the ability to play your own music plus it uses milkdrop as the visualizer which is stunning.
