Molly = Mephedrone (Plant Food)

Discussion in 'MDMA - X' started by JungleChild, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. JungleChild

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    I'm not sure how the molly is in other areas, but just about every party I've been to in the past few months had nothing but this "Plant Food" or "Insect Repellent." The sad thing is, a lot of people really don't know the difference between real MDMA (Ecstasy) and Mephedrone / Methylone.

    I finally met a group of kids the other week that knew the molly getting tossed around was mephedrone but they preferred it since 95% of pressed pills around here are pipes or pure bunks.

    So is this a new growing trend in the rave scene? I've been to 3 fairly massive parties in two different states in the Mid South and it was prodominately mephedrone going around being sold as "molly." The few good pressed pills going around were in very short supply and for "inter circle only." Vancouver had a HUGH variety of great pressed pills but then again, it's much more popular up there and easier to access.

    Are raves turning out to have less or no MDMA and more research chems? I'm pretty old school, but I remember back when there were nothing but great pressed pills going around and no one bought molly since anything could get capped up and sold as "ecstasy." All the kids these days rather have the plant food that anyone can get off the internet.
     
  2. guerillabedlam

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    There seems to be a lethargic attitude for many today as to what they are actually taking when it comes to MDxx. I have taken methylone referred to as molly once because the guy who gave it to my friend had never done real molly so he didn't know better. MDMA Molly actually exists though and it is a great experience.
     
  3. JungleChild

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    It just seems like real molly (MDxx) is becoming more scarce because its much easier to get the RC counterparts and make more money selling it. Maybe I just live in a geographical oddity where real MDMA doesn't make its way here often. It's just sad that some party kids these days don't even know what they are taking. The seller called it "this" so it must be "this."
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    I don't see how anyone who has done good ecstasy could confuse mephedrone with MDMA if for no other reason than the duration, I do like mephedrone though a good amount. Methylone is slightly more like mdma but again it's shorter and different. I just had some bomb ass white Molly last weekend at a rave, boosted with caffiene and was Floored for a good 5 hours off 250 mgs, was good times.

    Molly scene probably requires a slightly bit more patience, especially if you live in the US than the Ecstasy scene, unless you are the one purchasing the initial rock.
     
  5. JungleChild

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    That's the thing though. I'm not sure if some of these people I seen selling molly actually done real ecstasy. They just refer each different batch they had better or worse then the last one. Kind of like how folks used to describe pressed pills as speedy or smacky (The same but different). The scene here is not full of completely obtuse people, but a lot of people definitely seem like they don't know the difference.

    If I had real MDMA (pressed or capped) and called it ecstasy and 'substance X' capped up and called it molly, most people would want to buy the molly.

    I'd take the ecstasy any day of the week and three times on Saturday (If it tested out okay).
     
  6. p0ly

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    Cathinones are more popular due to legality and abuse. People do loads of the cathinones day on end where as MDMA the high fizzles out and you have to stop.
     
  7. p0ly

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    I've seen loads of people on Methylone pills which were sold as XTC and they thought it was MDMA. The guy who thought it used to sell me really fucking good crystal MDMA as well so he isn't a drug noob or anything.

    i know you were refering to Mephedrone but still ;)
     
  8. JungleChild

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    It's definitely 4-MMC floating around here. Solid white crystally, looks almost like cut up meth. Methylone is more of a thicker brownish color powder.

    While I do enjoy doing methylone and / or mephedrone, I just wish MDxx surfaced more around here. I guess a lot of people these days rather have these RCs than the real thing since that's what they know. MDMA is by far, my entactogen of choice though. Man I miss the early 2000s....
     
  9. p0ly

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    Since Mephedrone got a major media hype in the UK it's become a very very sought after substance so people don't sell it as MDMA anymore as it's just as wanted if not more!

    But it sucks to think that loads of people think they're getting high off MDMA when they aren't, the MDMA euphoria is much deeper and loving.

    I do prefer Mephedrone though cos i don't like being off my face chewing and rolling around tripped out.
     
  10. guerillabedlam

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    @ jungle child: Pure methylone is white, I got a big phat baggie in one of my photo albums if you need a visual.
     
  11. JungleChild

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    All of the Methylone I've seen was a brownish color. Looks almost identical to this picture I grabbed off of Erowid:

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    All of the 4-MMC I've seen has been pure white, crystal, almost like meth. Very obvious difference between the two. At least the stuff I've seen going around and ordered myself.
     
  12. Omacatl

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    don't care to be a guinea pig. because of pipes, mephedrone and other RCs I'm totally not fucking with MDMA anmore unless I get offered a shard off a giant moon rock from some hippie at a psytrance festival.
     
  13. RooRshack

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    No, people lying about the drugs they have for sale is not a new thing. But as always, it's quite deserving of a beating.

    If it's a cathinone it's not molly. This bullshit probably comes from those fucks at "mollys plant food", passing off their mixtures of sketchy amphetamines as having ANYTHING to do with "molly".

    If you want MDMA, tell them you want "MDMA", if there's any confusion or a possibility that you're dealing with stupid greedy people.

    People who lie about drugs deserve to die very painfully.
     
  14. RooRshack

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    Pretty sure that's due to oxidation. Both the mephedrone and methylone I've had turned that tan and chunked up a bit after they'd been open a while. Or at least, the top layer started to have chunks of that tan.
     
  15. guerillabedlam

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    Ummmm.... You may want to chem id that because that's not methylone there, not even the chemical name ...
     
  16. JungleChild

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    It's an older picture but it came from Erowid.

    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/methylone/

    I've been looking around for other pictures of M1 but I've yet to find one that is pure white. Seen some off white, but not pure. The stuff I've got has always been off white/brown. Decent quality stuff, but I'm not a huge fan of it.
     
  17. guerillabedlam

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    interesting. Methylone name is 3,4 methylenedioxy n methylcathinone. Not sure why it would have 2 separate names but that pic on the front of the cover is white and all the plant food I've seen is white and all methylone I've bought has been white.
     
  18. p0ly

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    All the methylone i've had is white clumpy powder.

    Has anyone had Methylone crystals?
     
  19. JungleChild

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    I agree on every point you make here. But when you live in an area where ecstasy or any other entactogens are not popular, you have to hit up the street kids at whatever event you go to and roll the dice.

    I've yet to be completely burned, but a lot of sellers I've come across either really don't know what they are pushing, or deserve an Oscar for their performance in "Lying to the guy that is calling their shit plant food."

    If I was able to open the menu and tell them I want MDMA and actually get it, I'd be a much happier place right now. :dizzy2:
     
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    Clumpy, yes. Crystals no. I guess it does make sence that oxidation could cause the color change. The Mephedrone I get is still in shards and has a strong odor, but the Methylone is always brownish. I guess it's just old or overly exposed to air.
     

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