PETA what do you thing

just wondered what you folks think about peta

 

Everyone seems to have an opinion of PeTA. I think that they're a good lot, if occasionally a little misguided. They provide a good deal of information and host a number of educational videos on their site at petatv.com, and they've done some good in improving the treatment of some "food" animals. So I'd definately give them some cash if I had any, and hope that it not be spent on those whacky publicity stunts.


For more accurate nutritional information, though, I'd suggest visiting the Vegan Outreach site. They're also a less offensive group if your'e offendable.

 

There are pros and cons. On one hand, PETA is famous for its hard-hitting and high-profile campaigns. It is without a doubt that many companies made changes in their policy thanks to PETA pestering them. In addition, PETA provides unparallel support and materials to teenage activists--other groups publish materials for teen activists, but they are often cost-prohibitive and hard to come by.
On the other hand, some of PETA's more outrageous stunts have caused more confusion and anger among the general public than genuine education. PETA's radical nature mixed with its high profile has damaged the view of animal rights in the public eye.
The argument can be made that radical groups are needed for social progress. If the struggle for a kinder society was left up to the more conservative, old-guard groups, very little progress can be made. But that has to balance out with support from the general public too, and that means acting in a committed, but responsible way.
That said, it is imporant to remember that some of the most virulent attacks on PETA come from individuals and groups who would like to see all animal advocacy disappear. Bashing PETA is just an easy way for them to get their foot in the door.
Here is a PETA TV link from the group in which they try to explain the rationale behind media stunts. http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=gone_wild

 

They're okay for the most part.

Some of their stuff is nuts, and they can be total media whores (someone should tell them that not all publicity is good publicity) which can put people off. Though much of the criticism seems to come from conservative omnis who just don't want to know. So maybe it's good to shake them up.

Behind all that they do make some major improvements, and have brought the issues to many people who arew now fighting the good fight. Of course many of these are teenagers, so some of it is rather simplistic* and the PETA2 site and forums irritate me beyond belief.

The education material is usually good quality, colourful and easy to understand. Oh and it's free, when you eventually get it.
The videos are good too, very harrowing.

Yup I'm always this indecisive, it's libran thing.

*I'm perhaps not the best judge, being a university student.

 

PETA...eh. i think they have the right idea but the wrong technique. someone should tell them that scare tactics and yelling at people does and will not work. i also heard that they offered this town called hamburg $15k to change their name to veggieburg, and that seemed dumb. couldn't that money have been used to save animals?

so... right idea, bad technique.

 

for every mission there are extremes. PETA has a good mission, but there are times when i think they go a bit overboard. (but aren't there always those, no matter the topic or organization?)

 

If I were a veg*n , I would dislike PETA for bringing the movement into disrepute by the stupid propaganda they put out.

 

And since you're not a Veg*n and apparently have no intention of becoming one, I continue to wonder why you feel the need to troll around this forum.

 

I really like PETA.
They do what needs to be done to help our severely abused animals.
And they get results. They have accomplished more than any other AR group.

 

Perhaps you can give an example?Maybe I should suspend my memebership.I have reviewed all my posts in the veg forum.I have counted five questions asking for more info from other posters who were interested in what I had to say.I have also had eight positive answers to my postings and two LOL's.So how does that make me a troll?

 

I think just like most organizations they have lots of propaganda but they are trying to spread their message. I went to a PETA KFC protest last February and it was fine. We held signs and handed out flyers. Many people were interested in what we had to say but if they were not then they didnt talk to us. I guess it is all depends on how much you care.

 

Why have you (personaly) got a problem with KFC .. is it just because they are a global organisation in the business of selling chikens?.. Do you hand out flyers for all the chiken selling business that use the 'farms' KFC use ?.

 

I don't realy like peta .. i prefer organisations that protect animals ...but don't want the world to become vegan.

 

Well I dont know if i would be able to hand out flyers to every farm in the woorrlldld but I do know that if I handed a flyer to one person (who WANTED) one and maybe they decided to on their own that they were not going to eat animals then I think that is great. I have a problem with any company that abuses animals tell me how and I would LOVE to stop them all.

 

Well focusing on one company is a bit unfair..this is all i was trying to say. being merely a vegeterian i can't quite imagine a world with out meat eaters , i don't realy think their should be . The ultimate goal for PETA is a world with out meat eaters...


The treatment kfc got was completly OTT...

 

That kind of cancels itself out, doesn't it? If the world was vegan, animals would be a lot safer.


I like them, but there are more important things to worry about.

 

not realy... i can live in a society that eats animals. I don't want mistreatment. But in some of PETAS members eyes having a chiken in a cage is torture .. if everyone became vegan ..the animal kingdom would not be any better off..

 

peta has a lot of people pissed off in my town right becasue of two bill boards. The city council is even trying to have them removed.


One says "santa isnt comming this this year, milk gave him imptence, drink soy". It has pictue of santa looking down his pants

A local radio station had a free BBQ under this sign. and santa showed up too.


The other sign says "feeding your kids meat is child abuse".

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for all the good peta does, shit like this just them makes them look like wacked out nut fucks. and yet they still wonder why they get no repsect.

 

I understand the focusing on one company thing. I guess I never really thought about it before. I dont want that to sound ignorant but just honest. The reason I dont eat meat is because I think it is the right decision. I do know that it is not the right decision for everyone.

 

Quote Well focusing on one company is a bit unfair..this is all i was trying to say.
PETA is currently focusing on KFC because it is trying to persuade KFC to adopt certain animal welfare measures for its suppliers. Previously, PETA focused on McDonalds', Burger King, and Wendy's, all of which adopted some minimal requirements of their meat suppliers. (This hardly means that all cruelty is gone, but it does mean there are more audits now for the purpose of enforcing animal welfare guidelines.) Part of PETA's success is its ability to intensely focus on one corporation until changes are made, rather than just make broad (and often meaningless) statements. (PETA explains why it chose KFC for a campaign here... http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/why.asp )
Quote The ultimate goal for PETA is a world with out meat eaters...
It doesn't matter if this is the ideal of any group or individual, the fact is that this will not happen at any time in the forseeable future. People who claim that PETA will somehow magically enact sweeping national laws against meat consumption are using baseless scare tactics. Despite its radical and controversial reputation, even PETA seems to realize for the present and forseeable future, society will still demand tons of meat, and that's why they're asking KFC and others for better treatment rather than demanding they stop selling meat altogether.
Quote But in some of PETAS members eyes having a chiken in a cage is torture
I can't speak for everyone, but I think few animal advocates (PETA-affliated or not) would consider a large, sunny pen torture. But I don't have to tell you that factory farms are not filled with large, sunny coops. The manner in which battery hens are kept (crammed five to a cage the size of a folded newspaper) is barbaric by just about anyone's standards. According to national polls, even a significant number of meat eaters disapprove of giving a chicken a shoe-box sized amount of room for its life. Some countries have even banned the battery cage system because of the cruelty.
Like I said before, PETA has both admirable qualities and considerable faults. But many people equate all general animal advocacy with PETA, with is very unfair.